Edge Guide Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ford Invests Millions in Cleveland Engine Plant, Supports Growing Customer Demand for EcoBoost Engines Ford plans to more than double its EcoBoost®-equipped vehicle sales globally this year Production of 2.0-liter EcoBoost for North America at Cleveland Engine Plant in Ohio to begin in late 2014 Ford more than halfway to its goal to create more than 12,000 hourly jobs in the U.S. by 2015 Production of 2.0-liter EcoBoost engines for North American vehicles moves from Valencia, Spain to Cleveland; Valencia will remain the exclusive production location for the 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine for Ford of Europe-built vehicles; There is no impact on employment at the Valencia plant Cleveland Engine Plant Fact Sheet Ford EcoBoost Forum – To meet rising consumer demand for the award-winning 2.0-liter EcoBoost® engine, Ford Motor Company will invest nearly $200 million and add 450 new jobs at its Cleveland Engine Plant. “This is our One Ford plan at its best – giving customers the power of choice to decide which fuel-efficient engine is best tailored to their needs,” said Joe Hinrichs, Ford president of The Americas. “Cleveland Engine Plant was the first to produce EcoBoost engines and will continue to be a cornerstone of Ford’s strategy to deliver affordable fuel economy for millions.” The hiring builds on the creation of more than 8,100 salaried and hourly jobs in the U.S. last year, including 1,000 in-sourced hourly positions. Ford is more than halfway to its goal of creating 12,000 hourly jobs in the U.S. by 2015 to support new products and investment. Additionally, the company announced last month it plans to hire 2,200 salaried workers in the U.S. in 2013 to fill jobs in such key areas as Product Development, Manufacturing and IT. Production of the 2.0-liter EcoBoost for North America is currently based in Valencia, Spain. The investment in Cleveland will shift North American production to Ohio, while Ford’s Valencia Engine Plant will remain the exclusive production location of the 2.0-liter EcoBoost for Ford of Europe-built vehicles. Valencia will continue to produce and ship parts for these engines to North America. Overall employment at the Valencia plant will not be impacted. The Valencia Engine Plant will transfer some employees to Valencia Assembly Plant to support increased production for C-MAX, Kuga, Transit Connect and Tourneo Connect. Ford is making the move to assemble engines regionally to help meet rising consumer demand for the award-winning 2.0-liter EcoBoost and to optimize production capabilities around the world. Production of the 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine will begin in North America in late 2014. Cleveland Engine Plant currently builds the 3.5-liter EcoBoost engine and 3.7-liter V6. The Ohio facility employs approximately 1,300 people. It has built more than 500,000 3.5-liter EcoBoost engines since 2009. EcoBoost cornerstone EcoBoost is the cornerstone of Ford’s global engine strategy to reduce fuel consumption and emissions. Ford will expand EcoBoost production to 1.6 million engines this year – nearly 100,000 above the previous target. Delivering up to 20 percent better fuel economy than larger-displacement engines, EcoBoost uses smaller overall size combined with turbocharging, gasoline direct injection and variable valve timing to bring customers outstanding performance without sacrificing fuel economy. This year EcoBoost will be available on more than 90 percent of North American nameplates and by 2015, 95 percent of Ford nameplates will be available with EcoBoost engine technology. In 2013 Ford expects to sell more than 500,000 EcoBoost-equipped vehicles in the U.S. – a sizeable increase over the 334,364 EcoBoost vehicles sold in 2012. The 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine to be built in Cleveland is currently available in the Ford Explorer, Edge, all-new Escape and all-new Fusion, Focus ST, Taurus and new Lincoln MKZ and MKT Livery. The engine has won a coveted Ward’s 10 Best Engines trophy each year it has been available in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 thinking of building a 3.7 v6 memorial web site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Is the 3.7L being phased out? Isn't that still being used on the Mustang? I wonder if we are seeing the beginning of the end for all things naturally aspirated except in true load hauling vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't know anything about a phase out of the 3.7, but I don't like the current trend to go for tiny engines with turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 The Mustang to be sold in Europe will not be a real Mustang with a 2.0L Ecoboost! I have a 3.5L Edge which, after 3 years in Canada, I brought back to Finland and it could be the only one in the Country. I still love it but was thinking it was time to change for something newer. But the choice is not so great here in Europe, no Edge here yet and when it comes it will be too expensive. Looked at the new Kuga (new Escape in US). But biggest gasoline option available in Europe is the 1.6L Ecoboost with 180hp with a normal auto trans or a 2.0L Diesel 163hp with powershift trans (2000€ extra for the oil burner). In Finland the vehicle is around 45,000€ in a good spec (thats around $58,000 US). We also get to pay 2.70€ per litre of gas, that's $3.50 per litre, yes litre not gallon! I really miss living in Canada :violin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Gas is quite expensive in Europe! BMW's on the turbo bandwagon also, so it seems the "premium" labels are "downsizing" as well. I am all for fuel economy, but I am all for giving the consumer options as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 yep, downsizing is the new hype. the new premium cars get tiny turbo engines with a lot of horse power. unfortunately they don't downsize the price. we bought a new 2011 Sport in the U.S. and saved a lot of money compared to a used German premium car. In the brochures the premiums have better MPG, but in reality the difference to the my Sport is not that big. Isn't the lifetime of the turbo limited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I do around 20,000km per year in my Edge (over here in Finland). Yes, it costs more to run than a small engined vehicle but I have so much more fun doing it in my Edge and its going to be a very sad day when I have to convert to a European spec vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't know anything about a phase out of the 3.7, but I don't like the current trend to go for tiny engines with turbos Blame the U.S. government and CAFE regulations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I do around 20,000km per year in my Edge (over here in Finland). Yes, it costs more to run than a small engined vehicle but I have so much more fun doing it in my Edge and its going to be a very sad day when I have to convert to a European spec vehicle. we do approx. 30k km per year in our Sport and we have exactly the same feeling, but we will stay with the Edge for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Yes EdgeGermany, I look around at what's available which is similar to my Edge and I would say that a KIA Sorento or Hyundai Santa Fe (only available in Diesel) just don't cut it. I expect that when the next generation Edge, which is planned for Europe arrives in Finland in 2015, its going to cost around 60,000€ (Escape/kuga here is 45,000€ in Titanium spec). Was thinking to purchase one in US or maybe Canada for km spec speedo and have it shipped over to Finland but the problem is the bloody tax man here. He is so envious of anyone have a nice ride, that he will add something between 35% to 50% to the price of the car. And not a percentage of what the value of the vehicle is in the US but what he thinks it should be in Finland. When I returned to Finland in 2011 with my 3 year old Edge that I purchased in 2008, I was exempt 14,000€ tax on the car (part of moving goods) so would only have to pay anything over this amount. In Canada I would say that then, the vehicle value was about $20,000 (15,000€). Tax man in Finland decided that the value of the vehicle was 35,000€ ($45,000 for a 3 year old Edge!) and from this value he added 37% so the tax was just under the 14,000€ limit so nothing to pay this time. If I was to buy a new one and it would be a Sport now, I think he would want about 40% of what he thinks its worth and I think that would be 60,000€. So, an additional 24,000€ which is $31,000 on top of the purchase price would make it around 60,000€ ($78,000 :angry2: ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 *grrrr* that s**ks! is there no workaround to avoid those taxes? I had to pay customs and taxes as well for the Sport, but it was around 15k EUR in total. Best regards, Rene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 If the Edge came in a V6 hybrid, it would at least slowly pay back on the pain up front. Don't you guys pay income tax? Jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yep! pay lots of income tax, pay lots of car tax and at 1.70€ per litre of gasoline ($2.20), we pay plenty of tax here also but our medical care is FREE! So no need of medical insurance unless you want the five star treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojos Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Frozennuts! Check out the webbsite AutoScout 24 for Edges in Europe, there are some Edges (42) for sale around here..both older and newer.. Just a friendly tip! But I do agree with you regarding the taxes, living in Sweden where we love high taxes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 taxes *grrrr* 19% sales tax, 42% income tax, 42% energy tax for gasoline ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 And they still let you breathe freely??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeGermany Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 For me and my wife it is ok, because our total income is ok. It is the same in the U.S. If you earn good money, you'll have a good life. But since 3 years we try to get a diversity visa (DV/"green card") to live and work in the U.S. Maybe this year ... and we would bring the Sport with us. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Whereabouts in the U.S. are you all looking to live? Lots of Edge forum members in NJ/NY area and CA for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Frozennuts!Check out the webbsite AutoScout 24 for Edges in Europe, there are some Edges (42) for sale around here..both older and newer.. Just a friendly tip! But I do agree with you regarding the taxes, living in Sweden where we love high taxes... Yes, I have seen this option but Finnish Tax Man still wants his pound of flesh (35% to 50%) on a used car that's imported into Finland, even though Germany and Finland are in the EU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojos Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 In Sweden we only pay registration fee, inspection, new plates and so on. About 250€ in total when its bought within the EU. Takes about a week with all the paper work if you do it yourself, a lot of people pays an Importer 300€ extra, and has the car delivered at their driveway ready to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Cars are cheaper across the boarder in Sweden and we can purchase them. But when we bring them to Finland, the tax man attacks! Normally the tax added, brings the total price of the car just below the price of buying locally. I have heard that the EU has informed Finland that this practice is not correct in the EU but they continue to do it anyway. The % depends on size and power and I see that someone imported a Bentley Continental and vehicle was valued at 200,000€ and tax man taxed it at 50% so an extra 100,000€ in tax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sounds like if I was to move my Edge from Arizona back to IL and then live in the City of Chicago (IL Use Tax and Chicago City Tax). Although the numbers are not as extreme as foreign countries, the pain is still the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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