Van G Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 51K on our 10 Edge and getting pretty significant vibration when stepping on the brakes at higher speeds (80km/h+). Suppose its time for a service and/or replace. If I'm just going to change rotor and pads instead of getting them serviced, is this something I can do on my own and purchase parts from US? If I'm not concerned about looks (stock wheel), what should I consider buying? Or would I save money just getting it done at a shop in Buffalo area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 51K on our 10 Edge and getting pretty significant vibration when stepping on the brakes at higher speeds (80km/h+). Suppose its time for a service and/or replace. If I'm just going to change rotor and pads instead of getting them serviced, is this something I can do on my own and purchase parts from US? If I'm not concerned about looks (stock wheel), what should I consider buying? Or would I save money just getting it done at a shop in Buffalo area? You can do it yourself but getting the rotors off can be a chore. You won't save money getting it done at a shop but you'll save a lot of time, cursing and knuckle flesh. OEM rotors are fine. You can sometimes get aftermarket rotors cheaper but you have to be careful with quality especially on the ones that are drilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Fellow Canucks, job worth getting done state side at reputable shop? My local quoted $400 to service or $900 new all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprsnake_wishin Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Van G, I just re did the rotars and brake pads on my 07 edge. Piece of cake to do by yourself, ignore the knuckle bashing and cursing comments, that's only if your using the wrong tools. You can expect it to take you about 1.5 to 2 hours to do though because of just being unfamiliar with it, that's about what it took me. Trust me though once you get into it it's a very straightforward process. If you have the time to wait ebay is the way to go for parts. I ordered rotars and pads for the same price that the local shop wanted for just pads on all four wheels. Getting the rotars off is EASY, there are two larger bolts on the backside of the front rotars that secure them to the mount for the strut assembly. 2 bolts to take out and the rotar pulls off and new one goes on. The key to these bolts is just having a long enough breaker bar to get them loose, if your trying them with a regular old ratchet they will be a curser for sure. Just use the breaker bar to get them loose and give them a final snug too with some lock-tite on the bolt. All the newer brakes are essentially the same, YOUTUBE is a great source for a detailed view of how to do it. I could write it out for you but it's easier to see it in action. Hope this helps, I would not hesitate to do them yourself, you will save at least 400 - 500 dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Great. Guy on the street has done his Subaru so it should be a simple enough job. What rotors and pads did you go with? OEM or something else? Price paid? eBay was much cheaper or should I look at Amazon or some of the big US parts distributors? AutoAnything has Power Stop Brake Kit for $388 Any guidance on sourcing parts is appreciated. Edited June 14, 2012 by Van G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprsnake_wishin Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Oh nice, anyone with experience on a newer vehicle will be able to help. I can't remember what I paid off hand, I am pretty sure it was around the $400 mark after taxes though, that was for a kit including pads and rotars for all 4 corners. I bought mine on ebay canada to save shipping and duty fees. If your close to the border it may be worth buying them from the states and going to get them. I went with aftermarket drilled rotars because I wanted to help the looks a little. Have had no problems with them at all but they make a pile of brake dust for sure, I call them the cheese graters haha. If you can find a name brand kit for OEM replacement that's a reasonable price I would go with that myself if I had to do it again. A few tips: -Don't worry about the weird smelliness for the first couple days after you put on brand new rotars, it's just breaking in the new pads and the heat build up will cook of some of the oils and paint from the manufacturing process. -Make sure you clean the wear surfaces of the new rotars too with brake clean when you install them so they seat really well right away. -When you have installed the brakes and you have the tires back on and your ready to go, before you drive anywhere pump your brake pedal a few times to make sure there is no gap between your brake pads and the rotars. This will take it back to it's regular operating. Make sure you brake fluid level is sufficient before you do this,if you lost any amount of brake fluid in the process of replacing, now would be the time to top up your resevoir so you don't get any air in your brake lines when you pump the brake pedal. Too many people forget to do this when they do their own brakes and they wonder why they can't stop on the test drive. Very important to remember. ***One big tip to give you is that you will have to compress your brake piston to make room for the newer pads that will be thicker of course. Thats if your planning on buying new pads, if you are you can use a long flathead screwdriver or any other suitable pry bar.If you are replacing your old brake pads with new ones, you can pry right on the brake pad surface, it will dig in and damage it but it's ok if your throwing them out anyways. If your planning on reusing them, then I would suggest a larger style C- clamp or something that wont damage it. You do not have to loosen any bleed valve or anything, the brake fluid will run back into your brake fluid resevoir. Keep an eye on the level so it does not overflow. If it does, no big deal just make sure to wash the area off thoroughly with water when your cleaning up to get rid of the spilled fluid. It will damage your paint in the engine bay.*** That's about the main things to remember that I seem to recall. Don't be overwhelmed though, it's an easy process, can seem daunting if your unfamiliar with it but it's really not when you look back on it, especially if you get that guy to help you. Edited June 14, 2012 by sprsnake_wishin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I've replaced the front and rear pads and also the front rotors and would agree that its not a very difficult job to do yourself. I went with the MotorCraft parts as they are the closest to original and sometimes an improvement. Check out http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php for parts. I moved from Canada to Finland last year and brought my Edge over, parts not so easy to find here and even if they were, I think that even when I add the shipping costs, most parts are cheaper from Auto Rock than they would be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Don't see MotorCraft on the rockauto site for 2010 Edge. Is their a consensus on which brake kits are a good replacement? Taking a look around its hard to get an opinion for the standard driver! Most general info (other cars) is aimed at the performance crowd. I'm just looking for something that will give me the same or better braking performance (and last longer) on our family vehicle! Also, should I be inspecting the brakes first to confirm I need to replace everything at 52,000 KM? With a mix of city to highway driving of 70/30 is this the mileage we should see out of them? Edited June 15, 2012 by Van G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprsnake_wishin Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 My front pads were fine, it was the rear pads on the inside that went first. The piston side of your brake pads will always go first. Mine were replaced at 76,000 kms so if you have half a pad left it's fine to leave it for another 10 - 15,000 kms for sure. The dealership I bought mine used at did not check the brakes and all the test drives they did with it wore grooves into the rotars because the rear pads were worn through the rivets. Used it as fuel to get a wicked deal on the edge though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 We've got a pretty wicked pulse/vibration when braking at higher speeds so it's not something I want to keep driving on. Just wondered if there was a use in getting them serviced instead of replacing with this mileage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprsnake_wishin Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Warped rotars. You can get them machined, have to find a shop that will do it. They call it getting your rotars "turned." All they do it machine the face to take out warped brake surface. Problem is, the more you get your rotars turned down the easier they will warp again in the future because there will be less and less metal there to withstand the heat build up. In my experience I found brand new parts for about the same price so I just went that route. I am very happy with the performance of my brakes now, they brake about the same as factory pads and rotars but I for sure feel a lot more responsiveness when you first step on the pedal having the drilled rotars, they grab more. Just make a ton of brake dust, you can get low dust brake pads too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Hi Van G, I checked the Edge 2010 Rockauto site for the MotorCraft pads as I ordered originally from the 2008 page and for sure they are also in the 2010 under daily usage. MOTORCRAFT p/n BR1258B - front pads - $41.79 MOTORCRAFT p/n BR1259B - rear pads - $41.79 They come complete with shims and clips My front pads needed changing at 52,000 km as they were at the limit 3mm in places and not evenly worn. I also changed the rotors as there was a section on the inside of the rotors that that the old pads did not wear down (leaving a ring of rust) and new pads would have not run flat to the disc. I think this is a common issue and I noticed later that new discs have done the same thing. Changed the rear pads recently at 76,000 km and both pads were just about 2mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the part number. Not sure why I couldn't get that sorting by my vehicle the first time! I think I'll just do the front as well as that seems to be the source of the pulsing (if you can feel that). You went with MotorCraft rotors as well? Just got off the phone with RockAuto and they suggested getting the pad/caliper kits (loaded). Do I need to do Calipers as well? Edited June 18, 2012 by Van G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOEHIO Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 In the past, I've gone with new pads, and rotors turned, never had calipers replaced. This was on a 1995 Explorer that I kept for 7 years/149,000 miles. Never had dealer service dept put on new calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozennuts Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I went with Motorcraft rotors Unless you have something wrong with the caliper cyclinder, I don't see the need to change them. This will also save unnecessary brake fluid bleeding. Turning the rotors would have been the cheapest option but this would have left the vehicle immobile whilst I went and had them turned. Quickest and easiest option was to replace pads and rotors together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van G Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Just reserved OE premium ceramic pads and rotors from Napa Auto Parts - 180 less 10%. Hopefully they are good quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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