PrinzII Posted July 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Also waiting for the review of the Hertz Milles out of curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulinpanther Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 This speakers are supposed to be supreme. I have never heard them but I am not down to pay that much. Especially if I am not competing with a true active SQ setup. I want to demo the new premium MB quart that were released in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Shoulin: I think I'll stick with the JLs. I definitely want things easy if something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Another random thought since I listened to the C3s was to order two pairs of C3s for the doors. Since the C3 is a "convertible" speaker, I can use the speakers up front as my component and leave it coax in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Spoke with the shop and I thought about the C5s up front and the C3s in the rear. Stay tuned..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 The original installer for this setup has left the shop and went to Chicago. The shop's lead installer wants to look at the car to determine how to do this without hacking up anything visible. He will be the one working on this install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Update: One thing I am really neglecting to do in all this is look at their install quality and thoroughly test their installations. Will take a look when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) JL Audio, why must you torment me? Now, you come out with a 12TW3 sub? I am fortunate to be in the shopping and saving stage. Edited August 19, 2013 by PrinzII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulinpanther Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Why upgrade now? Did you finish your interior upgrades yet? All tuned and active crossover and amped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Stopped in yesterday and ran over some install related questions. They speculated that the 12TW3 w/box may be too large. Also, they want to keep the stock amp to power the center speaker and the two on the D-pillars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Dingo: When you changed your dash and D-pillar speakers, did you notice any sonic improvement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Honestly, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 So, in other words, it's not worth the extra hassle to upgrade the C&D pillar speakers as well as the center channel in the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2E Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) I've been through this... and it's been a little bit painful, but not terribly so... I understand you have a Limited, but I own a Sport, and am not certain as to the degree of differences in alternator output, system integrations, etc., so my input might not be accurate on all counts. If you wish though, I would be happy to tell you how I worked around the Sync/My Ford Touch hurdles in getting a fairly respectable sound system. FWIW, (and this is my opinion) the stock front center channel and rear "D-pillar" "surround" in the Edge "premium sound" package are completely worthless. For that matter, EVERY speaker in that entire configuration could use a serious upgrade, but upgrading speakers alone won't make your Edge sound good. The D-pillar output is summed mono, and the center channel, well... just needs to be turned off, disconnected or trashed... trust me, I've studied the schematics. So YES, the center channel and D-pillars are worthless and not worthy of spending money on. Edited September 27, 2013 by X2E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 X2E, thanks for the input. My installer has the same viewpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2E Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Since my last post here, I've removed the JL stealthbox and installed 4 10" JL10W3V3 woofers where my spare tire used to be (and then some)... Since I'm playing the odds, and I'm hoping that it's a good trade, and I believe it is, since my back is in no condition to allow me to perform a roadside tire-swap, and since I have about 5 different ways to cover roadside assistance, I don't feel too bad in doing this... On the audio side, my Edge is now of the status of "hammering". I've topped 140 Db SPL without taxing the system. In fact, I had to dial it back a bit since the "My Ford Touch" display seemed to get confused and blurry a bit with the SPL (it seemed to possibly be pushing everything on the screen at once), and whacked out the car's system to the point I had to reduce gains. My audio system is now more than my Edge can apparently handle. On the technical side (perhaps this deserves a new topic?) I am curious about whether it's possible to dissect the Sony audio head in my Edge and locate the DACs (digital-to-analog converters) and replace them with something else, like a pair of Wolfson converters? I've recently found that the Wolfson DACs used in reference recording and playback of so many of our most treasured tracks (I use them at home) are now much cheaper than they used to be, and damn, if I can feed the stock Sony's digital pickup feed into a pair of Wolfson DACs without a major rip-out, I'm all for it. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Did you put a capacitor on the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2E Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Hi PrinzII... Sorry for the delay in response, I've been traveling a lot... I have no capacitors (capacitors are, IMO, nearly worthless in most cases and can even be a severe detriment if you don't have the alternator output to keep them charged and waiting for very short term high current demands in addition to feeding the mean amperage demands of the system). If you cannot feed the mean amperage requirements of the system with your charging setup, no amount of caps or other power buffering gimmicks will make your situation any better, and quite possibly much worse. What I do have is a large alternator (275 amps or so at 14.6 volts-roughly-available at idle rpm) and a couple of XS Power batteries to buffer short duration peak amperage demands. (I suppose a good rule-of-thumb is one of these per thousand watts?). I experience no dimming whatsoever even at night (at idle) with lights and A/C on, and with the sound system warping the rear hatch. Edited November 20, 2013 by X2E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Which alternator did you go with? That's a pretty hefty one in your setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2E Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) My alternator is from Mechman. It's rated around 370 amps at normal driving rpm (where I've never measured, but I'm sure it's a fairly accurate specification), and it measures around 275 amps at idle rpm. I noted 275 at idle because that's what matters, when you're running the AC at night with lights on and have your foot on the brake, which is exactly where most sound systems are starving for power. www.mechman.com They build a pretty efficient low-drag setup with quite high output. It wasn't a direct replacement, but not too difficult to achieve. It's cranking out some serious amperage, but I haven't noticed it affecting the overall performance of the vehicle at all... For me, and since I'm running some large diodes and a couple of XS Power batteries, this charging system should be more than adequate for a 2000+ watt system (or 4000 watts, for that matter) in any mode of operation, as long as the engine is running. Edited November 21, 2013 by X2E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 X2E: I don't plan to go that extreme but plan for 900w. Your system sounds like it will seriously thump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Latest news: The last time I stopped there, I demoed the 12TW3. The Stealthbox has not been ruled out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabang Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Lots of JL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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