PrinzII Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Now, that I am the proud owner of a 2011 Limited with the Sony Sound System, I do feel it's time to change the speakers and amplification since things aren't as clean as I would like. Given that I am not a person who installs Audio, I will be turning my Edge over to Audio Expression in Mesa, AZ for the install. Components: 3.5" speakers: So far the choices are the following: JL Audio: http://www.jlaudio.com/c2-350x-car-audio-c2-coaxial-systems-99611 Boston Acoustics: http://www.bostonacoustics.com/SE35-P760.aspx Morel Tempo: http://www.morelhifi.com/car-audio/tempo (May involve some modification due to speaker's 4" size) 6.5" Components (Front Door and stock tweeter location): Morel Tempo: http://www.morelhifi.com/car-audio/tempo/tempo-2-way-2 JL Audio: http://www.jlaudio.com/c2-650-car-audio-c2-speaker-systems-99617 Boston Acoustics: http://www.bostonacoustics.com/SR60-P604.aspx 6.5" Coax (Rear Door) Morel Tempo 6: http://www.morelhifi.com/car-audio/tempo/tempo-coax-2 JL Audio: http://www.jlaudio.com/c2-650x-car-audio-c2-coaxial-systems-99618 Boston Acoustics: http://www.bostonacoustics.com/SE65-P756.aspx Subwoofer: Kicker Comp VT: http://www.kicker.com/CompVT Morel Ultimo 802: http://www.morelhifi.com/car-audio/ultimo Boston Acoustics: http://www.bostonacoustics.com/G108-P570.aspx Rockford Fosgate: http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=129171 Main Amp: Tru Technology: http://www.trutechnology.com/images/products/b4100s_full.jpg Subwoofer Amp: JL Audio or Tru Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) When I do audio upgrades I try to stick with as few brands as possible. My opinion is that you should go with the Boston Acoustics for everything but the sub. For the sub you can't go wrong with the R|2 Fosgate. Keep in mind that the rear subwoofer box can easily be modified to hold a 10" sub and mine (which was done up with a 10" pioneer low profile sub) really kicks some ass and it keeps things looking just like they did when the car rolled off the assembly line. That's my 2 cents. When are you planning on starting this project or have you already started it? Edited June 18, 2012 by Cdpratt69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Cdpratt: Right now, I am in the research phase to determine the costs for this project so I can start stacking the coins. I did look at your setup and I like how you have the amps in the spare tire well. I would like to do that because I don't want to lose the ability to fold my seats down. With your sub in the spare, where is your spare tire? If there is a way to do that w/o losing my spare, I might be interested in doing that. I am also tempted to incorporate an EQ in there. As for mixing brands, are you saying that based solely on timbre? I know with home theater systems, you have to use the same brand of speaker for the center channel as you do the fronts because each brand may have a different timbre and can affect sound quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 My spare tire is now a can of Slime, aka fix-a-flat! My wife is in the insurance business and I added roadside assistance and flatbed towing to my policy. Believe it or not you can get that specific! If there is a way to do what I did and put the larger sub in the spare area and still carry a spare I sure don't know of it. As for keeping the brands the same throughout, in my opinion it has everything to do with timbre. I see a good car audio system the same as a rolling home theater. I feel like sticking with one brand gets you as close as possible to the manufacturers desired effect. In other words, Boston Acoustics engineered their stuff to work well all together rather than to mesh in with say Rockford Fosgate or some other brand. I hope I'm making sense here. On a side note, it's kind of funny but my profession is actually in the home theater business. I design and install systems for both builders and home owners. I thought it amusing that you used that as an example! Coincidence? I think not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 On a side note, it's kind of funny but my profession is actually in the home theater business. I design and install systems for both builders and home owners. I thought it amusing that you used that as an example! Coincidence? I think not! Indeed. I work in IT but have an interest in car audio and home theater. As for BA, I have had a good history with them. When I had a 1994 Maxima, I replaced the rear speakers with BA coaxes running off of an Eclipse head unit and the stock (read: Clarion) amp. It actually sounded pretty nice. Given that we have Sony systems in our vehicles and how they are interconnected with a ton of other things, I definitely don't want to change that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think I want to add this to the mix...... http://www.audiocontrol.com/t34/17612/712451/OEM-Integration/LCQ--1----Six-Channel-Line-Output-Converter-with-Equalization-and-AccuBASS.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I figured you had some electronics background or something in the IT area. It appeared to me you know your stuff. I used the Audio Source LC6i rather than the LCQ-1 in order to save a bit of money. The LCQ-1 adds equalization over the LC6i otherwise they do the same thing as far as integration of high level signals to low level inputs for the highly involved systems like our Sony systems. All the RF amps I am using have the punch EQ knobs and I had them installed in the center stack just in front of the center console hatch so I can adjust things on the fly since you tend to get different output between CDs, FM, Satellite, and MP3 players. They all do different things because of varying signals and compression. About the BA speakers. My friend on here, Dingo, uses all Boston Acoustic speakers and he loves the sound of all his. He gives all their stuff a glowing recommendation. Keep me posted on your progress and take pics along the way! Good luck! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Chris, Thanks. One more question. Did you change the speaker wiring or keep the stock stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Prinzll, I did not change any of the stock wiring from the head unit to the Sony amp because that would pretty much be a worthless task in my opinion. The moster cable goes from the Sony amp to the audio control LC6i and then of course quality RCA cables from that unit to the amps then monster cable to the speakers from there. Hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Loud and clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Quote #1: Front Door: http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=116783 Rear Door: http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=223188 Dashboard & D Pillar: http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=112881 Subwoofer: http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=120426 OEM Integration: http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=117203 Main Amp: http://www.jlaudio.com/xd700-5-car-audio-xd-amplifiers-98264 Time for Install: 3 days Price tag: Would give wifey a coronary....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Well, your $40k car is about to be worth well over $45k soon! You made some great choices. You are using a couple of similar items I used. Anyhow, that will sound great. Take tons of pictures and good luck with the install! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 If the shop will let me post them, I will do that. I am also going to check into some other shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Oh, I forgot to mention that the shop gave me two different quotes. One quote was for replacing all speakers, adding two amps, and the RF 360. The other was leaving the stock speakers (surround, and D pillar) powered by the factory amp. Guess which one was $1,000 less.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Do you mind saying what the total of the complete replacement quote is? I'm very curious as to their labor charges on a total job like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Cdpratt: You got PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I am really leaning toward just replacing the speakers all the way around because of timbre issues and sound quality. I am going to visit Soundwerks in Scottsdale, AZ today to get a quote and see what they are going to charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Cool, keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) Still researching..... Edited July 10, 2012 by PrinzII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) Soundwerks: Scottsdale, AZ Door Speakers: http://www.jlaudio.c...l-systems-99103 Tweeters: http://www.jlaudio.c...rossovers-99106 OEM Integration: http://www.rockfordf...CookieSupport=1 Primary Amp: http://www.jlaudio.c...mplifiers-98264 Secondary Amp: http://www.jlaudio.c...mplifiers-98261 Subwoofer: http://www.jlaudio.c...r-drivers-92150 Bass Level Control: http://www.jlaudio.com/rbc-1-car-audio-amplifier-accessories-98015 Edited July 10, 2012 by PrinzII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 They also entertained putting either of the following subs in: 10W6 8W7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I like the 8w7 but am concerned about mounting depth and my desire to stay totally stock without having to tear up my back panels. Is the space where the current 8" woofer sits deep enough to handle the 8w7 without modification to my panels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 The sub that is mounted behind my back panel in the original location has a mounting depth of 3-3/8". Maybe that info will help. The original Sony sub has a fairly large magnet for being a stock speaker in my opinion. I guess that is not a bad thing because the panel prob had to be designed to make room for it. I am just guessing here but it looks to me like there isnt much more room back there for anything larger than a 10" sub box or a depth more than 3.5". The stock Sony amp is back there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinzII Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Then, the sub decision may orient toward the original choice of the Rockford Fosgate shallow mount sub. When you put your 10" shallow mount, did you have to modify the side panels? Soundwerks wants to cut up my side panels and try to make it look stock. I am not trying to hack anything visible up on the Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdpratt69 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 No install required no modification on the stock side wall. It is all still stock. The shop just modified the box and it still fits behind the stock grill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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