dhs1174 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I know people have been waiting to find out what or edges can do so here it is! Stock with CAI and Exhaust my edge pulled 248 hp and 233 torque. With VMP Tune we pulled 263 hp and 237 torque. Also to note, the edge pulled a torque increase from 193 to 231 on the low end, so that's a huge gain! Justin @ VMP Tuning is awesome i am very happy with the results. I highly recommend him to do our edges. VMP Tuningsteeda dyno run.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellbine Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 You have a '11 Sport right? I thought the sports came with ~305hp and the 3.5L came with ~285hp. I'm afraid to test mine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 You have a '11 Sport right? I thought the sports came with ~305hp and the 3.5L came with ~285hp. I'm afraid to test mine now. The factory numbers are at the flywheel - just the engine. The dyno numbers are at the rear wheels. You lose power going through the transmission, differential, axles and wheels. It used to be about a 20% - 25% loss but that's lower now. My guess is the CAI and cat-back only added a few hp to the stock numbers - the factory setup is already optimized. The tuner gains were most likely the result of advancing the timing which requires premium fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_bova Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 really like those low end gains. I'm sure there are still decent gains to be had just with using 87 octane and a tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 really like those low end gains. I'm sure there are still decent gains to be had just with using 87 octane and a tune. How is a tune going to add power without advancing the timing? I doubt there is much room to advance the timing and keep it on 87. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellbine Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 The factory numbers are at the flywheel - just the engine. The dyno numbers are at the rear wheels. You lose power going through the transmission, differential, axles and wheels. It used to be about a 20% - 25% loss but that's lower now. My guess is the CAI and cat-back only added a few hp to the stock numbers - the factory setup is already optimized. The tuner gains were most likely the result of advancing the timing which requires premium fuel. I see, thanks for the explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_bova Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 How is a tune going to add power without advancing the timing? I doubt there is much room to advance the timing and keep it on 87. the low end could probably be fixed by changing the throttle mapping as it seems there is a delay when you step on it. you aren't going to get tons of power without modifying timing but you can probably get some by changing tables, I'm not sure what tables there are but you could lean it out a bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 the low end could probably be fixed by changing the throttle mapping as it seems there is a delay when you step on it. you aren't going to get tons of power without modifying timing but you can probably get some by changing tables, I'm not sure what tables there are but you could lean it out a bit too. Increasing throttle response would make it quicker to drive on the street but it won't make more power on the dyno. And how would leaning it out add power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm running 14.1 - 14.8 all the time with the stock tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_bova Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) it runs 14.1 at WOT? I doubt that. Coming from tuning my mazdaspeed6 that thing ran 9.5-10.0 at WOT, but we would lean them out to 11.6-12 which was still safe, I know different cars, but I don't think any car runs that lean at WOT. That is more like cruising AFRs. By leaning out you improve the combustion efficiency, by getting a more efficient burn, but you run the risk of running hotter. Adding power isn't just tweaking timing, there is more to it with fueling and other things. Edited April 13, 2012 by c_bova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 By leaning out you improve the combustion efficiency, by getting a more efficient burn, but you run the risk of running hotter. Adding power isn't just tweaking timing, there is more to it with fueling and other things. Good to know. But I can't imagine that would be a very big increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I understand tuning. And I'm not guessing. The only variable would be if 4 bosch O2 sensors all were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_bova Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 i mean i know tuning a forced induction motor is probably different than a n/a one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXCL Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 With VMP Tune we pulled 263 hp and 237 torque. Also to note, the edge pulled a torque increase from 193 to 231 on the low end, so that's a huge gain! So can you spin those 22's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sorry if I missed an earlier post, but is your Sport AWD or FWD? Drive train losses, of course, are higher through AWD. P.S. previous boosted cars I had, the turner would aim for mid 11's A/F at WOT on the dyno. But again, boosted applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs1174 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 So can you spin those 22's now. So can you spin those 22's now. I was always able to get a little chirp out of 'em before, but yes now they spin! Sorry if I missed an earlier post, but is your Sport AWD or FWD? Drive train losses, of course, are higher through AWD. P.S. previous boosted cars I had, the turner would aim for mid 11's A/F at WOT on the dyno. But again, boosted applications. My sport is FWD. I highly recommend Justin @ VMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeblake710 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 0-60 with the tune and mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs1174 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 0-60 with the tune and mods? never tested 0-60 but i can let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephinatx Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 How are you tuning it and what do you buy to put the data into the system. I'm new to this just got 2013 edge sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs1174 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 How are you tuning it and what do you buy to put the data into the system. I'm new to this just got 2013 edge sport. I bought an sct programmer and had a certified tuner write me a file to install on the machine. Once the file is on the device, its just a matter of plugging the device in and following on screen directions. You can get a sct tuning device and a custom file written from vmp tuning or morepowertuning.com. I would check sctflash.com to see if the have a database for your pcm first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephinatx Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Your the only one so far that got the thing to work. From what i read from other issue WOT. and hard shifting. Any new updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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