Turbo Build For 2008 Ford Edge 3.5L

[Speed Mafia]

Hey guys,

i wanted to see if anyone would be interested in seeing a turbo build for a 2008 Ford Edge 3.5L?

Edited April 4, 2012 by Speed Mafia

[Dingo]

I'd like to see it, but I refuse to click on something that says "Hellz Yeah..."

[Speed Mafia]

I'd like to see it, but I refuse to click on something that says "Hellz Yeah..."

 

Modified. :yup:

[Dingo]

Modified. :yup:

Voted. :yup:

[us11csalyer]

Voted - Not at all.

 

If I want turbo v6 I'll get a 350Z

[Dingo]

Voted - Not at all.

 

If I want turbo v6 I'll get a 350Z

I have a GTR, but I'd still like to see.

[us11csalyer]

I have a GTR, but I'd still like to see.

 

 

Who knows. Maybe Ford will come out with a v6 flex fuel Edge. Kind of like the SRT version of the new Jeep Grand Cherokee.

[Speed Mafia]

Here is the start of this of this turbo build...

 

Kit from STS:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The beginning of the build:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Still need to wire it up and add the oil lines and pump...etc

 

We will be using the diablo tuner to add for additional fuel and timing needs.

 

:o

 

Thanks

Edited April 17, 2012 by Speed Mafia

[c_bova]

not sure I like the idea of mounting the turbo back that far, but good luck.

[ablb]

Is this a custom install or a kit designed for the Edge?

 

I don't think I've ever seen a turbo that far from the motor.

 

ab

[akirby]

Several companies are making those types of kits. The advantage is you don't need extra room in the engine bay and the plumbing is simpler. There has to be some power loss due to the long plumbing but I've seen dyno runs on tv that show it makes good power.

[Eatinitup]

Who knows. Maybe Ford will come out with a v6 flex fuel Edge. Kind of like the SRT version of the new Jeep Grand Cherokee.

 

I had a 2002 Ford Ranger Edge with a 3.0L Flex Fuel V6 in it. Gas sucked but then again, it was up 11" on 38's with 4:88 Yukons in the rear!

[Eatinitup]

Supposed BENEFITS of a REAR mounted TURBO! I could see some of these benefiting but maybe not on all of them?

 

• Lower underhood temperatures. No need to worry about melting wires, hoses, or other engine components, as with a front-mounted turbo.
  
• Ease of installation. STS turbo systems can be installed in about 8 hours with standard tools and average mechanical ability.
  
• Cooler oil to the turbo. Cool oil is better for both the turbo and engine.
  
• Performance Sound. The turbo acts as a muffler and sounds like an aftermarket performance muffler. Turbo spool and rushing air from the blow-off valve make a unique sound that will turn heads!
  
• No need for major modifications to your vehicle. STS systems are designed to "bolt-on" to factory mounts.
  
• Increased gas mileage. Unlike a belt driven supercharger, the turbo utilizes "wasted" energy leaving your tailpipe. Most of our customers get 1-3 mpg increase in gas mileage compared to their original stock mpg numbers.
  
• Converts back to stock in about an hour.
  
• More room under the hood. Future repair work or modifications will not require the expense of removing the turbo system to allow access to engine components.
  

• Lowest Intake Air Temps. Low IAT's equate to more horsepower per pound of boost than any other forced induction option. STS intake piping provides built-in intercooling. Add the optional intercooler, and IAT's drop even further.
  
• Approximately 500F lower turbo temperatures. Eliminates the need for a turbo-timer, which allows the engine to run after the car is shut off in order to cool down the turbo and prevent oil and bearing damage.
  
• Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbo turbine wheel more efficiently.
  
• Turbo is exposed to ambient air rather than underhood air. Allows for better cooling of turbo components.
  
• No need for expensive headers, mufflers, or exhaust systems.
  
• Turbo is closer to the tail pipe outlet. Provides a better pressure differential across the turbine wheel which promotes better flow across turbine.
  
• Better weight transfer. Increases traction because the bulk of system is mounted in rear of vehicle rather than up front.
  
• Less noise and heat in the passenger compartment.
  

[c_bova]

so it will only be oil cooled and not oil and water and oil? cause if it's water and oil you wouldn't need a turbo timer anyways.

 

where does the filter go? right off the turbo, if so how do you keep it better protected from the elements?

[Eatinitup]

so it will only be oil cooled and not oil and water and oil? cause if it's water and oil you wouldn't need a turbo timer anyways.

 

where does the filter go? right off the turbo, if so how do you keep it better protected from the elements?

 

I know that "Rice Burners" normally have the air filter then a water proof filter then the piping.. I would assume that it would be somewhat the same application in this case. Filter then water proof canister then Turbo. And there is no real way to keep it free of elements... It will need to be cleaned monthly and depending on weather, weekly. Those stats I got are directly from the STS website were the gentlemen doing this JOB bought his Turbo kit. It isn't specific to the EDGE, its a GENERIC turbo kit. Attached photo has the Water Proof thingy, I was talking about.

cai.bmp

[ablb]

so it will only be oil cooled and not oil and water and oil? cause if it's water and oil you wouldn't need a turbo timer anyways.

 

where does the filter go? right off the turbo, if so how do you keep it better protected from the elements?

 

Speed Mafia has lots of snow and gravel rds in CO.

Wonder if they plumb the intake back to the engine compartment?

 

 

It’ll have a turbo timer, that’s what the pump is for.

 

 

ab

[Speed Mafia]

Supposed BENEFITS of a REAR mounted TURBO! I could see some of these benefiting but maybe not on all of them?

 

 

• Lower underhood temperatures. No need to worry about melting wires, hoses, or other engine components, as with a front-mounted turbo.
  
• Ease of installation. STS turbo systems can be installed in about 8 hours with standard tools and average mechanical ability.
  
• Cooler oil to the turbo. Cool oil is better for both the turbo and engine.
  
• Performance Sound. The turbo acts as a muffler and sounds like an aftermarket performance muffler. Turbo spool and rushing air from the blow-off valve make a unique sound that will turn heads!
  
• No need for major modifications to your vehicle. STS systems are designed to "bolt-on" to factory mounts.
  
• Increased gas mileage. Unlike a belt driven supercharger, the turbo utilizes "wasted" energy leaving your tailpipe. Most of our customers get 1-3 mpg increase in gas mileage compared to their original stock mpg numbers.
  
• Converts back to stock in about an hour.
  
• More room under the hood. Future repair work or modifications will not require the expense of removing the turbo system to allow access to engine components.
  

• Lowest Intake Air Temps. Low IAT's equate to more horsepower per pound of boost than any other forced induction option. STS intake piping provides built-in intercooling. Add the optional intercooler, and IAT's drop even further.
  
• Approximately 500F lower turbo temperatures. Eliminates the need for a turbo-timer, which allows the engine to run after the car is shut off in order to cool down the turbo and prevent oil and bearing damage.
  
• Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbo turbine wheel more efficiently.
  
• Turbo is exposed to ambient air rather than underhood air. Allows for better cooling of turbo components.
  
• No need for expensive headers, mufflers, or exhaust systems.
  
• Turbo is closer to the tail pipe outlet. Provides a better pressure differential across the turbine wheel which promotes better flow across turbine.
  
• Better weight transfer. Increases traction because the bulk of system is mounted in rear of vehicle rather than up front.
  
• Less noise and heat in the passenger compartment.
  

 

all the information above is correct. With the turbo being remote mounted there is several benefits and with the proper turbo sizing and configuration there is no lag or efficientcly levels stay the same. So on avarage we see approx a 50% increase in hp and tq. so if a vehicle is making say 190hp to the ground we will see a 95hp gain on conversvitive psi (5-6psi) and TQ.

 

The days of a standard turbo setup with it up front are long gone. with these kits they perform just like a standard setup.

 

As for oil we are plumbing off the stock oil filter location into the turbo then back into the motor.

 

i hope to have before and after dyno numbers :o)

[us11csalyer]

One of those superchargers that looks like a turbo but runs off the belt for power would be similar. It won't make the same kind of HP a normal turbo would but with our tranny being the weak link it would be an idea.

[us11csalyer]

Supposed BENEFITS of a REAR mounted TURBO! I could see some of these benefiting but maybe not on all of them?

• Lower underhood temperatures. No need to worry about melting wires, hoses, or other engine components, as with a front-mounted turbo.
  
• Ease of installation. STS turbo systems can be installed in about 8 hours with standard tools and average mechanical ability.
  
• Cooler oil to the turbo. Cool oil is better for both the turbo and engine.
  
• Performance Sound. The turbo acts as a muffler and sounds like an aftermarket performance muffler. Turbo spool and rushing air from the blow-off valve make a unique sound that will turn heads!
  
• No need for major modifications to your vehicle. STS systems are designed to "bolt-on" to factory mounts.
  
• Increased gas mileage. Unlike a belt driven supercharger, the turbo utilizes "wasted" energy leaving your tailpipe. Most of our customers get 1-3 mpg increase in gas mileage compared to their original stock mpg numbers.
  
• Converts back to stock in about an hour.
  
• More room under the hood. Future repair work or modifications will not require the expense of removing the turbo system to allow access to engine components.
  

• Lowest Intake Air Temps. Low IAT's equate to more horsepower per pound of boost than any other forced induction option. STS intake piping provides built-in intercooling. Add the optional intercooler, and IAT's drop even further.
  
• Approximately 500F lower turbo temperatures. Eliminates the need for a turbo-timer, which allows the engine to run after the car is shut off in order to cool down the turbo and prevent oil and bearing damage.
  
• Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbo turbine wheel more efficiently.
  
• Turbo is exposed to ambient air rather than underhood air. Allows for better cooling of turbo components.
  
• No need for expensive headers, mufflers, or exhaust systems.
  
• Turbo is closer to the tail pipe outlet. Provides a better pressure differential across the turbine wheel which promotes better flow across turbine.
  
• Better weight transfer. Increases traction because the bulk of system is mounted in rear of vehicle rather than up front.
  
• Less noise and heat in the passenger compartment.
  

 

Supposed BENEFITS of a REAR mounted TURBO! I could see some of these benefiting but maybe not on all of them?

• Approximately 500F lower turbo temperatures. Eliminates the need for a turbo-timer, which allows the engine to run after the car is shut off in order to cool down the turbo and prevent oil and bearing damage.
  
• Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbo turbine wheel more efficiently.
  

 

I must be missing something here. I was under the impression a turbo used the hot gases to spin up. And from my understanding the pressure driving the turbo is from hot gases. Soooo how does letting the exhaust gases cool and dense work in regards to this turbo being on par with a normal turbo? Isn't exhaust gases for a turbo suppose to be not dense to create pressure passing over the turbine?

[akirby]

I must be missing something here. I was under the impression a turbo used the hot gases to spin up. And from my understanding the pressure driving the turbo is from hot gases. Soooo how does letting the exhaust gases cool and dense work in regards to this turbo being on par with a normal turbo? Isn't exhaust gases for a turbo suppose to be not dense to create pressure passing over the turbine?

 

You are correct. Notice it says that it drive the turbine more efficiently - not faster. That's doublespeak. Having the turbo closer to the rear means you get less boost and you also slow down the induction air due to the length of the intake tube. On a dual exhaust vehicle you can run two turbos - one on each exhaust - to make up the difference. But there is no way this produces as much power as an engine mounted turbo.

[akirby]

One of those superchargers that looks like a turbo but runs off the belt for power would be similar. It won't make the same kind of HP a normal turbo would but with our tranny being the weak link it would be an idea.

 

A supercharger that looks like a turbo but runs off the belt is just a supercharger and it can make more power than a turbo. Unless you're talking about those cheap hair dryers they sell on ebay - those are worthless.

[Speed Mafia]

One of those superchargers that looks like a turbo but runs off the belt for power would be similar. It won't make the same kind of HP a normal turbo would but with our tranny being the weak link it would be an idea.

If you’re speaking of a ProCharger or vortech or paxton yes they are centrifugal superchargers and nothing like a roots type blower. Centriguals are great at making power and there is allot of controversy between turbo and centrifugal.... for example I know a guy that had the world’s fastest ford and was out performing turbo cars with a ProCharger setup? He was a turbo guy till he found the added benefits of the centrifugal supercharger...but again to stay on topic this is a turbo build.

[Dingo]

Unless you're talking about those cheap hair dryers they sell on ebay - those are worthless.

 

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=40&i=113561&t=113561

[us11csalyer]

No I was talking about what speed mafia was referring to. They made a Procharger kit for my last car (3g eclipse) but there wasn't a big demand for it.

[c_bova]

any updates on this?