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Thx for all the responses. Knock on wood, all is well right now. This has been weighing on my mind. You've all convinced me... I will plan on replacing the pump and timing components soon. Yes... it is cheaper than a new engine and does give peace of mind.

I have a 2009 Ford Edge Limited AWD with 212,xxx miles. I bought it new and have meticulously maintained it. Other than the PTU going south around 150,000, it has basically been flawless (other than what I consider to be 'wear and tear' items). It still has the original water pump which is currently (knock on wood) working fine. Should I consider replacing it even though it's working fine? My Ford dealership tells me not to worry about it...that they do not see many go bad, but 212,xxx is a lot of miles on a water pump. Plz advise. Thx. BTW - I'm not a fan of this 'internal water pump' engine design. It appears that serious engine damage can occur if/when the seal goes. Other than this, I have no complaints on the 3.5.

Hi PW... I read the same thing, and I interpreted the instructions to mean you didn't have to use the screws; you could only use the two sided tape to hold the bug shield in place. (I didn't like that idea). I may have read the instructions wrong...it's been a while. In any event, drilling the pilot holes for the screws was not a big deal...very easy to do. I'd offer to use a 'punch' (if I'm referring to it correctly) to mark the spot to drill...this will also keep the drill bit from 'walking'. Be sure to use a drill bit which is somewhat smaller than the screw...you can always make the hole bigger, but can't make it smaller. I'd also offer to put a stop on the drill bit to make certain the bit doesn't go too far in...to deep...when drilling. I used a piece of old hose I had laying around...I cut it to a length that when placed over the drill bit, it only allowed for a small portion of the bit (1/4 inch or so) to be exposed. Hope this makes sense... Good luck.

Sorry to hear about this...if you only had the car 2 weeks or so, I'd check w/ Ford about getting a different one (especially if it will need major engine work). You may be plesantly suprised w/ their response...I've heard a story where a tranny went out of an Expedition the first week of ownership, and without any prompting, the selling dealer offered to replace the vehicle. Best of luck w/ this....

You'll find many are quite passionate about what they choose/which brands they'er loyal to. I agree w/ what someone else said...use what works for you. I've tried many, and must admit, I'm partial to the Meguiars NXT 2.0...here's what I do: - wash (kind a goes w/o saying I suppose) - claybar (this can be time consuming, but makes a huge difference) - polish (Meguiars...this is an added step, but after clay bar...does not take much time...I use the Porter-Cable random orbital polisher...almost makes waxing/polishing fun) - Meguiars NXT 2.0. (I use the liquid...again, apply and remove w/ Porter-Cable random orbital polisher) - Meguiars Ultimate Detailer (I think that's what it is called...spray on...wipe off). Here are the results: Now, can you get these results or better w/ another brand...maybe... I think you can get great results with just about any of the high end waxes. Personally, I think the cleaning/prep...and more specifically, using the clay bar to remove dirt washing misses, is what makes the difference. whatever you choose...Good luck...

I too had the 'sticky stuff' on the 20" Chrome clad wheels; I noticed this after I took the car home, and started to detail it (clay bar, meguiars polish, then meguiars nxt 2.0 tech wax...). The sticky stuff did not come off w/ soap and water. I then tried wetting a rag w/ acetone and rubbing on the wheel, and it came right instantly. As the wheels are 'chrome clad' (english translation...'chrome colored/treated plastic'), I was not concernd that the acetone would hurt the wheels....and it didn't appear to. Other than that, no other issues/concerns when I picked the car up....all was well.

Regarding the prefill of the oil filter when changing, yes...same here...I try not to fill it too much when it doesn't sit totally vertical. In the Edge (2009, FL500 S filter), it doesn't sit 100% vertical, but not too far off. I fill the filter w/ oil...let it sit. every 2-3 minutes there after, fill it to just under the threaded part of the filter (the part which attaches to the filter to the engine). When the oil level in the filter stops dropping (meaning the filter media is saturated w/ oil), I stop and install the filter. Doing it this way, I feel I get as much oil in the filter as I can without spilling it (yes, I do install the filter as quickly as I can to loose/spill as little oil as possible...more often than not, none). This is one of the reasons why I like to change the oil on my own; I know good and well the service techs do not do this, and I am a believer it's better for the engine. Again, just my thoughts. Good luck.

I've noticed the same thing...a drop or two on the filter when I change it..as if it was dripping just ever-so slowly. This has not always happened...just every so often. I have not noticed any drop in oil level per the dipstick when there are a couple of drips on the filter. It just about has to come from the oil filter's gasket. why??? don't know.. I to always clean the 'oil filter mounting surface', as well as coat the oil filter gasket w/ oil. I'm probably not helping, but in my opinion...if it's just a drop or 2 every so often, and there's no noticable level difference per the dip stick, I'd probably let it go; this one can drive you nuts trying to track down. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck.

I do not believe Ford use a 'special' break-in oil...just plain ol' 5W20. As for the interval, to each his own. Yes, I probably do go a bit overboard (admittedly), but in my way of thinking...just cheap insurance. On a related note...I do pre-fill the oil filter before installing it. I've never seen anybody at a dealership do this, and do think it is important; oil gets to the engine/moving parts quicker as the filter already has oil in it... Good luck...

I may be a bit weird, but I did the first oil change on the Edge with approx. 100 miles on it (I've done this with all my new cars)..my concern is that they may have been some stuff in the oil (metal shavings/dirt from assembly...) when the engine was built, and really didn't want to rely on the filter to capture it. I know, this is a bit extreme...but for the few bucks to do the oil change (and changing the oil on the Edge is ever-so easy once you get the correct frigg'n filter), I think it's cheap insurance. As for the oil change interval, I personally think 3 months/3000 miles is a good limit...again, cheap insurance, and easy to do (As you may guess, mine may be done a bit more often). OK...ready to hear from the 'why would you change the oil after 100 miles while Ford does not recommend it...it's a waste of money to change it so often' crowd. :shades:

What he said.... I agree. the Ford unit is not bad, but for the $$$ (a $1995.00 msrp option if I remember correctly), you could get an awesome aftermarket unit that looks like it came from the factory, and works much better/more features/sounds better. Just my 2 cents worth. Checkout Crutchfield.com... If you're a do-it-youselfer, I think you'll be pleasantly surpised. Good luck.

I've previously read many negative comments regarding the Edge seats/headrests. Until about 1 month or so ago, I truly had no complaints w/ seats; I thought they were fine (actually comfortable), and didn't understand why so many people had issue w/ the seats. My wife thinks they're fine...she's also short (5' nothing..or there abouts). Then again, this is my wife's car, and I typically don't drive it. (Her Edge is a 2009 Limited AWD, leather seats. if that matters). Approx. a month or so ago, I did take the Edge on a 3+ hour trip (one way). I now better understand atleast some of the concerns voiced about the seats; it does seem as if the headrest is tilted a bit too far forward, and I did experience some head/neck discomfort (I may be understating it a bit). I did figure out if I reclined the seat just a bit, the headrest became less of an issue/seat became more comfortable. To those having discomfort w/ the headrests, you may try reclining the seat just a bit...I found it to help. On a separate note, the bottom (or 'seat' part) of the seat (probably not describing it very well) seems to be a bit short for my legs (I'm about 6'0"); my thighs are do not seem to be fully supported but again, my wife has no complaints. I sometimes think this car may have been designed more for women than men (short seats, headrest positioning, no supercharger :shades: ,...) Good luck.

I thought about getting the Weathteck mats for my wife's Edge. but haven't yet... I am suprised the 'dead pedal' is not covered by the mat... Have you given this feedback to Weathertech? I've purchased their Bugsheilds (3 of them) and couldn't be happier. When I spoke w/ their customer service folks, they did seem interested in making sure I was happy.. Good luck...

Yes...I've installed the Weatherteck deflector on my wife' 2009 Edge, as well as my daughters 2010 Escape. Of all the deflector's I've installed thus far (5 or so), the Weathertech are the highest quality in my opinion...they fit perfectly...easy to center (have a notch/mark on the underside which matches a notch/mark on the hood) and are more pliable than the others (which to me, translates into lasting longer). Here are some pics: Good luck...

My wife has a 2009 limited AWD. It now has approx. 25,000 and no PTU leak (actually, no leaks at all). After reading all I have on this forum about the PTU seal leak problem, I'm a little concern, and check it every so often. So to answer your question, I don't know..maybe it was fixed for the 2009's and on? If it means anything, her Edge is a later 2009 build (takes the FL500S oil fiter rather than the FL400). Good luck...and by the way, so far, very happy w/ the Edge.