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Yes, that was my only hesitation, but I'll stick with it for now, I think in general it works. There are other maker's models where a horizontal trapezoid looks fine, like the Acura MDX, but something about the vertical look was too...Cadillac-ish for me. I of course saved the stock tips so if I go to sell it I can bring it back to full stock. Who knows--maybe this will start a trend!

I'm wondering what all of your general opinions are on this tiny mod--reverting to the round exhaust tips over the odd vertical-trapezoid stock tips on the 2019 Edge ST? This is a "round peg in a trapezoid hole" scenario, but I think it works--I had a very odd and strong aversion to the shape of those stock tips. These replacements are stainless, were 9" length with 2.5" in and 4" out, about $40 for the pair. I believe the actual size of the muffler exit pipes are 2.25, but it appears Ford punched an oval flare die into the exit pipe (not sure why--it's hidden). So to get these to slip on without sawing off the flare, I got the 2.5 size inlet for the new tips, used large channel locks to de-oval the exit pipe flare, and to make the clamp work on the smaller pipe after I'd cleared the flare, I had wrapped several layers of aluminum heat tape around the pipe, and the 2.5 clamp worked perfectly. There are 3 stainless 8mm bolts that hold the stock tips to the bumper (they are not connected to the muffler exit pipes). Two bolts on either side--very easy--but one bolt is on top and very hard to see or reach. I used a flex-extension on a 1/4 drive ratchet and blindly found the hex head and got it out. There is also a plastic sort of mounting bracket, which I thought was a fairly elaborate piece of molded plastic for just holding the stock tips. Anyway, I left that in--some of the torx screws were behind the tow-bar cross-frame, so that ended any thought of removing those. But you can't see them unless you get down real close and look. Plus they're black, and I put tiny strips of black gorilla tape over the now-empty bolt holes and tab-slots, so it doesn't have that "something's missing" look.

I have found that a simple pencil eraser works fantastic! I get one of those rectangular ones like from grade school with the beveled edges on the long sides, and rub back and forth, then wipe off the eraser dust with a microfiber and the wax residue is gone.

I just got the Livernois MyCalibrator Touch for my 2019 Edge ST. I got three tunes, an 87/89 octane, a 91, and a 93. I’ve only done the 91, and it was a noticeable difference. It was noticeable just driving, but to get real numbers, I used a mobile app, CarScanner, connected to the OBD port with the ohp WiFi adaptor, to do 0-60 timings. Before the tune my best was 6.0 seconds. With the 91 tune, my first try was 5.66 seconds. And it was on a slight uphill. This is in sport mode, but not using the paddles, trac-off. I haven’t had the time to go deep in the boonies to a good, long, flat, and traffic-free road, so I find a decent road nearby, then loiter slowly till I’m the last car, check behind me, then stop dead, reset the CarScanner 0-60 line, brake-torque to about 2500 and hit it. Aside from fuel/air changes, one of the key things that helps is that it lets you actually hit the redline before it shifts. Even in sport mode, the stock calibration seemed to shift well before redline, sometimes skipping a gear, leaving you well below the powerband in the new gear, costing a few tenths as the engine lugs. I’ll post results of the 93, I’ve heard others on this forum say it’s phenomenal.

Edit: I actually took my own advice from my rough-framing days: Measure twice, cut once. There is more room than I thought and I ordered the parts yesterday. I’ll post a pic when I get time to install them. ** edit out—I looked and looked, and most of the ones online are 8" long or longer. The way the muffler is set longitudinally back there, the 90 deg bends on either side only leave 4" room to the back edge of the back bumper, so the tips could only be slightly longer than 4", because the 90 Deg bend is right there. I'll keep looking there has to be something...**

Thanks everyone, I'm going to go for it! --Jim

I’ve never done an ecu tune on any car and I’m wondering, specifically for the 2019 Edge 2.7 EcoBoost, how much power is really “left on the table” and if those who have installed them have realized significant gains. It’s my general understanding that Ford’s bean counters figured, for example, that the 2018 2.7 was rated at 315hp, and they figured if they tuned another 20 hp to get the current 335hp, they’d get a marketing boost to sell more cars, at the cost of “x” number of blown engines or turbos to repair under warranty. So how much is really left and at what risk? From what I’ve read it looks like I might see ~40hp gain with some of the common tunes (Livernois, is what I was considering). Those of you that have done this—can you feel that change without having to take it to the track and time it? I mean is it absolutely “wow, that’s a significant boost” or is it more in the 1/4 times that you see it in terms of few tenths? I’d really like to take the plunge but I’m wondering if I’m hoping for an unrealistic gain. I want to be thrilled—I want to know that if I come across that X5 that left me looking at its taillights comes around again, that I’m gonna at least be nose to nose. Thanks!

Congrats! I too went without the 401A just to keep the cost down. The ST base trim is still well above most of the other models' "reasonably equipped" trims. I got the big sunroof and the cold weather package. As for the 21" wheels & brakes, if I want red calipers I can get some hi-temp paint and paint them myself and save nearly 5K! Plus I'm old-school and still like chrome/aluminum color on my wheels, the "murdered-out" look doesn't appeal to me--when that first became popular I kept thinking it was just someone who never cleaned the brake-dust off their wheels! Anyway, have fun!

Yes, I made sure Android Auto and Waze were both updated on the phone as well (Galaxy S7). The odd thing is--for a moment I did see Waze on the lower part of the car's screen next to the "apps" checkerboard icon, and Waze was on and open on the phone, and I had chosen Waze as the default nav app on the phone. I got all the prompts on the car's screen about agreeing to data use, etc. But tapping the Waze icon on the screen did nothing--the screen still showed the default home screen and no nav, even though I had a route in Waze on the phone and it was running (ie, I hit Go Now on Waze). Then I tried to start over--unplugged the USB from the car (using the front USB slots--not the charging-only slots in back), and then plugged back in. Waze was now gone, and it has never come back. But my phone starts Android Auto when I plug the USB in and it says it's connected to the Edge, but the Edge's screen acts as if nothing is there. Sometimes the confirmation screen will come up on the car's screen with the "Agree" button--but then disappear in the background never to be seen again--it's like if I don't click that in 1/2 second, it goes away and the subsequent prompts never come up. So it does seem like a case where if the cable is bad and not in the exact right position for the tiny micro-USB contacts to be making contact that it fails--but in my computer I can plug it in and twist the phone around, move it, jostle it every which way *while I'm transferring data from the phone to the PC*, and it never breaks the transfer. So I'm confident the cable is good and the microUSB port in my phone is clean and tight. It just seems that the Sync3 is quirky with that and I don't know why. This morning I'm going to re-install the update and see if that works.

Yeah, tried that. I know there's cables out there with just the two charging contacts, but I throw those away if they end up in my possession so there's never any confusion. I have the OEM one that came with the phone (Galaxy S7), it communicates with my PC just fine, and it also communicated with my Tucson's infotainment system and Android Auto on that car using any number of OEM compatible cables I have. I may try to re-install the Sync update, but it's definitely something on the Sync 3 side.

So I have the 2019 Edge ST, and the rear molding below the bumper has those odd vertical/trapezoidal exhaust exits. I'd greatly prefer the round tips of the Titanium model. Does anyone know if that molding piece and the chrome tips from the Titanium are a direct fit with the rest of the bumper on the ST so that it's a simple remove/replace? Thanks, --Jim

I notice this clunk issue occasionally, it's not a deal-breaker in my opinion. Some things to note about the ST (I have a 2019 ST)--note that I'm very happy with my ST and don't regret it and could go on an on about the "pros", but the below are the "cons" I've found so far: 1. The transmission in general is a bit lazy, even in Sport mode. Not a deal-breaker either, but worth noting that I rarely use the paddle-shifters because using them is like calling a cat to come to you. It'll sit there and come over when it feels like it. 2. The seats are really snug. I'm not a big guy and still I feel like I have to shimmy into the bolstered sides. Maybe if I was driving F1 I'd want that extra tightness but I'm not going to see the Gs that would force me sideways more than a seatbelt alone would hold. 3. Styling-wise, all good but not a fan of the exhaust tips. I'm looking into trying to get the Titanium tips with the matching rear moulding. Not sure if there's a direct fit there but to me it would be worth a few hundred to fix that styling miscue. 4. I have not yet been able to get Android Auto to work. I updated Sync to the latest version, which claims it has Waze, etc. but none of that is available, whether I connect via USB or Bluetooth. I can make calls and do all that stuff, but no Nav possible (I got the sync without nav because why pay for nav when I can use my phones nav via Android auto). Other than that, it is everything I wanted it to be! --Jim

And on a similar note, (no pun intended), as a teenager I would turn over the air cleaner cover on my parent's sedan when I drove it, which would significantly increase the engine noise via the wail of the incoming air through the now-exposed air filter. But in general nowadays I'm lean towards the "sleeper" characteristics--I don't want to announce that the car may have something special. Not to go to far off-topic, but in high-school my friends dad had the ultimate sleeper. A staid looking 1970 Chevy Nova. His dad didn't want sporty badges, etc, just a daily drive that would also tow his boat. So he got a plain looking Nova with the 350 300hp engine, and a Muncie M22 4 speed--n SS badging, just a basic looking sedan. When my buddy would come over all I could hear was that beautiful whine of the M22, but the engine note was family-car-quiet.

2FAST4U, I think you are correct. From this link: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15117726/faking-it-engine-sound-enhancement-explained-tech-dept/ High-tech sound tuning is not limited to six-figure vehicles, though. Ford installed a resonator pipe between the Mustang GT’s V-8 and its fire wall. The Boss 302 takes this further by adding a second pair of exhaust pipes tucked behind the rocker panels. Owners can remove restrictor plates located just upstream of the side exits to open the exhaust. The resulting note causes pedestrians to duck and cover.

That looks like a wealth of information and items to tinker with, I can’t wait till I get into it, it should come tomorrow (Amazon is delivering on Labor Day!).

The one I got is this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XJL31Z7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It appears to be workable but if not I'll return it and get one of the one's listed in this thread. Thanks!

Thank you. Yes, I was like a kid in a candy store when I got this home--"what's this button for?", "what does this menu dig into?", etc. A lot of stuff to learn on this for sure. I just accidentally noticed the AC 110v in the back of the center console--and I was sure my option package did not have that, so nice surprise there.

gadgetjq, thanks! I've ordered an ODBII adaptor and I should have it tomorrow. --Jim

On the 2019 Edge ST, I’d like to just have normal, unaltered engine sound. I’ve read a bit about Ford using either noise-cancelling tech or piping the sound through the speakers, I’m not really sure what they do. Can anyone please elaborate on what’s actually going on with that and if it can be truly disabled (ie, without odd workarounds). Thank you! Jim

Hi, I’m just sharing my thoughts on the ST, and wondering if others have similar experiences/thoughts. I chose the ST for the 2.7 EcoBoost. It’s definitely an impressive engine. I was aware of the general reviews and 0-60 specs, etc, so I wasn’t expecting a race car, but for a ~4400 lb car it really moves well. I’m coming from a Hyundai Tucson Sport, and that was truly an underpowered car—passing a truck on a 2-lane highway required a few miles clear road and a lot of ramp-up time to build speed. This Edge inspires total confidence in such maneuvers! The acceleration is more than ample, but less than vicious. I didn’t get the big tire/brake package, I think that was about 5k, and to me the stock 20” tires are fine and the stock braking is excellent. The 8-speed shifts slow, which seems to be a common thing with many newer cars. The paddle shifters aren’t very responsive either, and I t’ll override the “paddle mode” and upshift for you a bit too early, well before redline. It seems the paddles are more of a “suggestion” to the transmission rather than a control input. I imagine there are ECU tunes that could help in that area but for me it’s not worth the risk of warranty issues. For normal driving the tranny is just fine, though not great. The cabin is very quiet when you are just cruising, but I’m not thrilled with the sound at hard acceleration. I’ve read that it’s either artificial or altered somehow with noise-canceling tech, I’ll have to research how to disable whatever magic they’ve got going on there. I really love the overall styling, it’s very well done, and not overdone. My one small gripe styling-wise is the shape of the exhaust tips, oddly trapezoidal. No snow yet so can’t comment on the AWD, but I expect it’ll be fine. So those are my initial thoughts, all subject to change as time goes on but I’m really happy to have such a great looking and capable crossover! Jim

So, I’m happy with this Edge and have a lot of questions that I’ll be posting.