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But putting to metals on top of each other does not bond them, there has to be a thermal compound. I can stick an aluminum heat sink on a processor by itself, and the exact same heat sink on a with thermal past. One will stay cool, on will fry, the bonding is the difference. also, adding mass does increase balance temperature, because it increases peak heat soak temp. You have more mass that can reach a higher temperature, but mass doesn’t creat more cooling surface. This is what we use when creating heat sinks, or inter coolers, or radiators. Mass doesn’t create the difference, design does. A 10 ft by 10ft solid aluminum intercooler will run hotter then a 1ft by 1ft with proper fin design. Even though it has 90 more sq feet of surface. If these covers had some fun design, and a thermal compound then I could see it. But either way, this conversation is trying place theories on already proven sciences. It’s the same as saying waxing a car will make it faster because of less resistance....
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95% would be a minimum base. Meaning any material or thickness would result in that minimum. Material, thickness, etc. would come into play after the initial minimum base. Yes it does take more cooling, otherwise your mass balance is going to be much higher(higher temps) i also work specifically with cooling and cooling materials(in the electronics field). I know all about metals, cooling properties, materials, etc. These would resault in great great diminishing returns, and then into negative returns. if these somehow maintained these magic cooling properties then you would see them on race cars, circuit boards, and host of other items.
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Not trying to argue either. I just don’t like seeing misleading information posted. if those are the results you personally got than either the testing method was flawed, or testing equipment was. But I’m sorry your calipers were not colder after your runs. Not a personal attack, not trying to be a dick. But these covers can’t change the rules of physics.
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Thats if it was bare aluminum. But any sort of coating, such as paint. Would dramatically(95%+) reduce heat transfer. That additional mass also requires additional cooling. Once reaching a high temperature it would then act as an insulator for the caliper, keeping it hot.
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Proven!? Please don’t recirculate bad information. And what source; other than the manufacturer has “proven” this in scientific testing? I can tell you from an engineer standpoint it’s not true. This will add heat 100% of the time on 100% of applications. first, it’s not like a standard aluminum heat sink for electronics, you aren’t going to get the tower effect. For that you would need a dedicated thermal compound between the caliper and cover. You would also need constant airflow(so no stop lights) So heat transfer would be minimal and even less with any coating/paint. Plus you would build up more heat, and create a larger surface that needs to be cooled. 2nd, your reducing airflow to the caliper. and 3rd, calipers can be mounted in multiple configuration, shapes, and sizes. Meaning what might cool one might not cool another. So making a blanket statement would be False. so no, these can not dissipate heat, they can only add it. Anyone that tells you otherwise needs a basic physics class.
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Wouldn’t it be cheaper to simply paint them? I personally am not a fan of putting a cover over a hot part such as the calipers. Just my 2cents, but for me these would fall in the same category as putting a large spoiler on a Honda Civic. But to each their own.
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Comprehensive List of Possible Forscan Mods?
Dsmtweaker replied to ben senise's topic in Accessories & Modifications
This worked, but the signature lights dim way down when the turn signal is on. Do you know if there is a setting so the signature lights keep their intensity? -
Which tuner did you go with?
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I would beg to differ. I came from an Audi S3, which was 60k. It’s the “sports” version of the Audi A3. The price of a vehicle is very subjective as 50 K for a car might be expensive to some, and cheap to others. Also, a cars price doesn’t effect people parts purchases or modding, as you can get just as many parts for an Audi R8 or a GTR as you can a Honda Civic. the a3 had limited aftermarket options, while the S3 had plenty. That’s because the manufacturers New that people purchasing a “S” Platform are more performance driven. The edge is no different, The majority that wont modify a car won’t ever buy the ST, they will stick to a different trim. Just like they would buy an a3 over an s3, or an impresa over an STI. the ST is also unique in the sense that it fills a void in the market of having size and performance at this price point. The closest comparables are going to cost at least 20k more. So a lot folks who want both size and speed under 70k will be drawn to the ST. so while the majority might not mod, I would confidently say, if parts were available, at the very minimum 20-30% of owners would. Which is on par with all other proformance based vehicles.
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Do fusion sport parts fit the ST?
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Where do you see their hard piping? I don’t see anything listed for edge on their site
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That’s the plan, just waiting for parts to actually be released, not much on the market yet. But we were planning on 3” catless turbo back, upgraded IC, external WG, upgraded pump+injectors, intake, and other support items. We would like to see what we can get out of the stock turbos before we upgrade(probably to large single) but this is a company car we use for clients, so we want to mod it, we do with all of them. we had all the parts in the attached on our Subaru’s before they had 1k miles.... so we are already behind on the ST.
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True, but a road tune is always preferred over a dyno tune. Also, last time I had checked there was only 1 awd dyno in the state(Michigan). Which is 5 hours from us. Next closest is Chicago, about 6 hours.
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Do you have ideas of expected gains on these tunes? Also do you offer custom tunes to go with other parts? We are looking to get at least another 200whp out of the stock block and turbos before this spring season.
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Comprehensive List of Possible Forscan Mods?
Dsmtweaker replied to ben senise's topic in Accessories & Modifications
Anyone know how to keep the drl led accents lights(ford signature lighting) on While using turn signal?