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No problem Mikula......................

I know this is Mikula, but I will respond for the use of future reference for others: Engine Mods: 93 Tune Unleashed Drop in K&N filter 170 T-Stat UP Intercooler Ram Fab Charge Pipe Suspension mods: H&R Lowering Springs Front Cross Brace Future Mods that we are hoping will bring the vehicle to a more neutral handling characteristic: ​Front camber bolts (not gonna give away the camber up front yet, cant give away all our secrets) Rear Addco sway bar Coliovers (still trying to find a company willing to do this with out charging an arm and a leg)

Could you please take the time to provide the group cold hard facts about the systems and explain your opinion as to why the different systems will not perform in different ways??

We haven't claimed any hp gains, just cold hard data numbers and graphs. Dyno should be Monday if we can get our revisions with unleashed complete. Our next test and tune is coming up in 2 weeks I think. We will of course post our results when we get back from both occasions. We are all here to find facts and we have facts now for this particular thread. Until a product is installed and tested it's nothing but hypotheticals and opinions. But as soon as I was able to put together cold hard facts I did and posted it asap. Your overall intentions are welcomed Mikula,what's not appreciated is the attitude/brash/tactless way you go about it. And the little digs at me are getting quiet old also.

This is the lot that Anne Arundel County Police and Fort Meade Police use to train performance motorcycle driving, a very well used lot that has no gravel..... Also, the public roads are no place to be pushing a vehicle past its safe limits, to many variables we cannot control that can cause injury.

UP intercooler vs stock intercooler, all data done from 0-100 in like temps 19c vs 21c: Line color: Dark red flat: ambient temp Dark Red: TIP KPA Blue thin: Vehicle Speed Blue Thick: Charge temp UP intercooler: max temp: 68c tip pressure max is 256kpa Stock intercooler: max temp 68c Tip pressure max is 210kpa Comments: As seen with the logs the stock intercooler heats up with in 8 seconds of going WOT and sustains 68c from 55mph to 100mph, which pulls timing and is extremely hot. Boost pressure varies greatly from 170kpa to a peak of 210kpa (redline) due to restrictive manner of the intercooler and extremely high temperature. recovery is slow. Aftermarket intercooler takes a while to reach 68c and finally reaches it at the end of the log which is over 100mph. Boost pressure is consistent and is roughly 20% higher. recovery is extremely fast. Final thoughts: UP Intercooler is well worth the money. Note: Hopefully it will hit the dyno this coming Monday (14th),and a test and tune soon.

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OP updated with new intro and some descriptions

By the way if your looki for what modifications you can do to the edge, this is a very helpful thread: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24317-the-ultimate-27tt-aftermarket-parts-thread/

Meth is always a great idea if you can rmember to keep the seconday tank topped off. Alot of people swear by them. will also help keep charge temps down.

Congrats and welcome!

OP has been updated as of 0940 on 5/9/18, thanks all for input! Ive been adding thread links for each one, would be helpful if someone wrote a general description about each and what the benefit would be to the platform. That way anyone looking for more, has easily attainable information

For those who dont believe the edge sport has an understeer issue, the proof is in the pudding.

The cxracing is nice for no cutting or modifications to stock parts. The UP intercooler has the best core and the best flow. FWIW Cxracing uses Cheap china cores... I've only used them for temporary use on my other builds until a custom intercooler comes in.

Will add useful changes tomorrow by close of business. If you can please provide links by that time. Thanks for your input guys!

UPDATE: Bar is done, and shipping either today or tomorrow!

NOTE: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FITMENT OF PARTS, 95% of these are interchangeable between the Sport and ST, BUT it is YOUR responsibility to ensure before purchasing. For those of you starting with a used car, please take the proper precautions and steps in getting your Edge Sport up to date on services, fluids, tires, brakes, and general overall condition. Once again, we cannot stress enough how important it is that preventive maintenance is done before anything else. If the car is not up to the task to run efficiently, why would you put more power into it? Before you start: Goals and Patience Lay out what you want to do to your car. Put it on paper. This way you will be able to come back to what your original plan was and the reasons why you wanted to do it. You can make adjustments later as needed. Your goals might be to get 10-20 more horsepower and add a few accessories for style and that's it. Some of you might want to go all out with a big turbo build, a suspension setup, bla bla bla. Either way, sit down and put a plan together. Think about why you want certain parts and why you don't. Think about and research the effects your parts will have on the car. Our philosophy is if it's not above average workmanship and quality, it's probably not worth buying. Do your research like looking at pictures on a google search, finding results from other enthusiasts, and asking others what their experiences have been. However, be careful who you ask and information sources you trust. There are people out there that criticize a part after they install with the wrong tools, didn't follow the directions, and used faulty parts to replace the parts they broke that came in the kit. Then all of a sudden it's the manufacturers fault. DO YOUR RESEARCH and trust your research, not others' opinions!!! Patience is really directly related to the amount of money you are spending and can spend at once. Patience is absolutely necessary when you are on a budget, there are many tempting parts out there because of their price. I'm not saying there are not inexpensive parts that work well, but I truly believe you get what you pay for. I can't tell you how many stories I have heard and still hear about cracked this and failed that. Underdeveloped, poorly manufactured, and cheap material will break or fail prematurely at some point. Failure is not the only reason why cheap parts aren't smart, they often underperform other comparable parts that are developed and tested thoroughly. The order of mods below isn't very important , but it is important to have many of them before moving on to the next progressive mod. You don't have to follow it exactly but use this as a guide. Many people have taken similar paths as you will with variations. Of course, you can always ask us what we think in a PM or in another thread. We might be able to make good suggestions. This will be a living document and forever changing. Please feel free to add input below and I will keep the OP updated ! If you post a part, please include part name, part number, and a link if there is a specific site it has to be bought from! Engine: - Tune 87, 93 & E30 This is probably the most important and most effective upgrade possible. These days, newer model cars are under strict guidelines from emissions regulation to get the most gas mileage they can and to reduce emissions as much as possible. Once you start adding parts, the settings that the ECU came from the factory with don't work for all the additional airflow present with all these parts. The ECU will actually start to detune the car naturally because of all the changes in airflow and combustion. With this said, you must make the ECU learn to work with the parts that you have. There are tons of benefits to getting your ECU tuned. You can really start to play with the boost settings, timing, fuel, and many more things. You can make your car extremely efficient under normal driving conditions like the factory originally wanted and make it scream once you put your foot to the floor. You can monitor all the important sensors of the vehicle and make sure the car is running smoothly and also see why it's not. There aren't a ton of ECU tuning options out there for the Edge Sport but the one that is out there is awesome. The SCT X4 had a major impact on accessibility to tuning these ECUs. Make no mistake, at this point, it's a very good idea to tune the ECU. We highly recommend getting the SCT X4 as the first modification in this stage. It's a scalable upgrade that works better and better as you keep modifying. We can't say enough about it. ZFG Racing 91, 93, e50, e85, Brew City Boost 87,91,93, e30, e85, 110 Unleashed 87, 91, 93 , E30 Livernois Motorsports 87, 91, 93, 100, ms109 - HPFP http://www.xtreme-di.com/product/xdi-hpfp-ford-nano/ - Drop-in Intake filters This is the easiest and most effective first modification which is why it's so popular. Making power is all about more airflow and better efficiency. Plan on a slight increase hp and slightly more torque from this drop in part. It's as simple as opening the airbox, and putting the new filter in. No need to put the car on a lift or jacks. Just open up the hood, get a few basic tools and you're good to go. Along with adding some nice less-restricted airflow. K&N Part number: 33-5000 aFe aFe Magnum FLOW pro DRY s Air Filter: 31-10269 AfE Magnum FLOW Pro 5R Air Filter (oiled) : 31-1026 - Oil Filter Options Ford Motorcraft FL-2087 - Thermostat Most tuners will request that you install a cooler aftermarket thermostat to keep the engine cooler. There are no negative side affects that have been reported as of yet. Not a hard install but does require some mechanical experience. Read More At: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/22703-thermostat-2016-edge-sport/page-3) 170 Degree thermostat: http://www.unleashedtuning.com/reische-170-degree-thermostat/ 160 Degree LMS thermostat: https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP2358-160 - Rear Motor Mount Some people will tell you this is the first modification you should do. Although I can understand why they say that, just make sure you don't mod crazy without it. The factory Ford mounts are crap. The bushings are a really weak and squishy rubber. This is GREAT for maximum comfort and eliminating noise, vibration, and harshness which is what the general population wants when they are driving to work and back home. But you are reading this because you want more performance out of your Edge Sport. An upgraded RMM will hold your engine in place much better while accelerating, shifting, and quickly decelerating. It will also keep the car more stable driving and shifting on rougher roads and more aggressive driving. The positive feedback given to the driver is instantly and significantly improved with this part. Installation does require you (or someone else) to get under the car or put it on a lift. It is not accessible without getting underneath the car somehow. However, once you're under the car, it's about as easy as pie. Remove a few bolts, take the old mount out, put the new mount on, and retighten the bolts with a little loctite and you're off to the races. Read More At: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/23572-rear-motor-mount-rmm-2016-edge-sport/?hl=%2Brear+%2Bmotor+%2Bmount CP-e: https://cp-e.com/shop/product/cp-e-xflex-2-7tt-ford-edge-rmm-rear-motor-mount/ uses 60 duro and increase NVH very little in the cabin Ultimate Performance: https://ultimateperformancenm.com/performance-parts uses 70 duro and there is a lot of NVH translated from the engine - Intercooler There aren't too many options here yet sadly. The stock Front Mount Intercooler (FMIC) is not only very restrictive and super small but it also suffers tremendously from heat soak. Your engine is generating very hot temperatures underneath the hood and the FMIC is the recipient of some of the heat. We all know that the cooler you can keep the intake temperatures the more power you can make and keep the motor safe at the same time. An upgraded FMIC like UP's or CXracing's will create much more area for the air to cool down before it enters the engine. They also allow much more air to flow in general. It does stay cooler than the stock TMIC because it takes longer for the intercooler to heat up, negatively affecting intake temperatures. But it also takes longer for it to cool down once it heats up because of the extra mass of the intercooler. Upgrading the FMIC is a great improvement to flow and cooling overall. Your intake temperatures will stay much more consistent and cooler which ultimately yields more power and safer power. Read More At: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/21117-intercooler-sport/page-10) https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F15-ford-edge-sport-27-front-mount-intercooler http://www.autoperformancealbuquerque.com/auto-performance/ 505-344-9227 - IC Cold/Outlet This modification is the the pipe that connects the intercooler to the throttle body. You will be blown away after seeing how small and skinny the stock inlet pipe is compared to ANY upgraded inlet pipe. On top of that, it's plastic and dinky. You won't see a ton of power from this part, although some, but you will need it if you want to keep the mods coming.Install requires taking at. For the first time installer it can be a little tricky but nothing that a novice can't figure out if you have ever turned a wrench. Read More At: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24280-intercooler-outletcold-pipe-upgrade-2015-2018-edge-sport/) Ramfab outlet pipe: Ramfab27@gmail.com - BOV This part will not yield power but typically has 2 major uses. The first use is it's cool factor (who doesn't like to hear PSHHHHHHH). Second, it is absolutely functional and necessary to be working properly once you get more power or crank up the boost. The stock bypass valve has been known to leak slightly when adding more airflow. It doesn't make sense to add more parts and increase the power levels of the car when the stock bypass valve won't be able to even hold the extra air at high boost and RPM's. Read More At: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/23661-2016-sport-27-bov/ Turbosmart: TS-0203-1281 http://www.boombaracing.com/fusion-sport-ecoboost-2-7-blow-off-valve-bov-adapter/ Boomba BOV - Modified Turbos (Thread: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/23269-turbos-needed-gen-ii-27-ecoboost/page-11) BNR: Will provide link later CTI rebuilt turbos that work with stock tune http://comp-turbo.mybigcommerce.com/Comp Turbos http://www.ctiturbo.com a division of Comp Turbos - Turbo blankets Comp Turbos: They are not on the web site call and ask for Ernie http://comp-turbo.mybigcommerce.com/turbine-blankets/ - Downpipes Zury Fabrications, Zurymakesit@yahoo.com, (410) 579-1470 2.5 DOWNPIPES: Note: Fitting to a stock or 2.5 exhaust system must be clarifed!!! Add $100 for cerakote (heat management)  Pricing: Catless 304ss downpipe - $925 Hi-Flo Cat 304ss downpipe - $1125 - Upgraded throttle body Stage3 Motorsports:https://www.stage3motorsports.com/1894-2015-2017-mustang-2-3L-EcoBoost-BBK-65mm-power-plus-throttle-body.html) - Intake Velossa Tech Big mouth https://www.velossatechdesign.com/products/2018-2019-ford-edge-st-ram-air-big-mouth-w-flare-intake-snorkel - Catch can The function of a catch can is very simple. When an engine is running, there is a very small amount of the combustion gases (exhaust) inside of the cylinder that end up getting past the piston and head instead of exiting out of the exhaust system. In order to remove that exhaust, known as "blow-by", car manufacturers have systems that take that blow-by and recirculate it back into the intake system so that it doesn't escape into the atmosphere. It keeps the environment cleaner but it also causes all that blow-by to pass back through your intake system and brings a lot of oil with it, leaving behind a lot of oil and buildup along the inside of the entire intake system including your intakes pipes, turbo, intercooler, and intake manifold. This happens very slowly and over time but eventually your motor becomes less powerful and not as safe because of the effects this has on the intake air after long periods of time. An oil catch can intercepts this blow-by before it goes into the intake. After it collects enough, you remove it, empty it out, and put it back on. This is a must at some point if you want to have your car running like a top at all times. Read More at: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/24253-g2-edge-sport-catch-can/page-2 JLT: https://www.jlttruec...roducts_id=1647 TeamRXP http://teamrxp.com/p...al-valve-system - Exhaust MRT Axleback Magnaflow #19048 2015 FWD SPORT ONLY catback exhaust - Oil Drain Plug: UPR Metal Drain plug: https://roninfactory.com/products/ford-f150-raptor-oil-drain-ronin-factory - Crank Case Breather: UPR Crank Case Breather: https://adamtuned.myshopify.com/products/upr-crankcase-breather-for-all-ecoboost-vehicles-focus-rs-mustang-fiesta-focus-f-150?variant=41268812496 - Throttle Response: JMS PedalMax: http://www.jmschip.com/ford-vehicles/ Transmission: - Level 10 Tranmissions Built 6f55 Call level 10 at (973) 827-1000 and ask to talk to pat about the built 6F55 options, make sure to tell him Jim and Colin sent ya for the Edge treatment and he will give you good pricing! - ZipKit Sonnax Zip Kit 6F50-ZIP targets the root cause of multiple concerns by sealing critical circuit pressure losses in the Ford 6F50 and 6F55 valve bodies. The kit contains uniquely designed parts to prevent the loss of pressures within the main line, clutch apply control, solenoid feed and lockup control circuits. The kit also seals multiple circuits known to suffer from end plug leakage or poor checkball sealing. No special tools are required for installing these parts. Sonnax: https://www.sonnax.com/parts/3743-zip-kit Built Transmission XP: https://spprecision.com/products/6f50-6f55-transmission-sale.html Suspension: - Camber bolts ACDELCO: P/N: 45K18052 - Front cross brace (TTCR-II): ebay - Springs H&R p/n 28759-2 - Rear Swaybar ADDCO Part # 2452 1.125 Whiteline lateral locks CarID Product Page Lateral locks from McMasters Discussion on aftermarket lateral locks in the sway bar thread starts here: https://www.fordedge...e-9#entry189069 - Rear Swaybar Mounts https://www.ridetech.com/product/delrin-lined-sway-bar-mounts/ - Brakes BDR Racing 6 piston Front Calipers with 385mm Rotors AMAZING front brakes, can reach out to Brandon Dubose on the Ford Edge World Wide Facebook page for all the information, took over 32feet off of the 80mph-0 stopping distance!!! Forum Reference material: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/25866-brake-pads-rotor-replacement-option-for-edge-sport-2016-2018/ Rotora Brakes 4, 6and 8 piston: These brakes retain the electric Parking brake. http://www.rotora.com/street-challenge/ Body -Sport Mud Flaps Ebay Link Here - CNC IC grill (FEF resource) Email Spencer for the grill sadams.cds@gmail.com - PnP Remote Start https://www.12volt.solutions/collections/ford/products/2015-2017-ford-edge-remote-start-plug-and-play-kit-1 - Honeycomb Front Grill https://www.ebay.com/itm/ABS-Front-Bumper-Grille-Honeycomb-Grill-Vent-Grid-Refit-For-Ford-Edge-2015-2018/362850116515?fits=Year%3A2018|Model%3AEdge|Make%3AFord&epid=8035770920&hash=item547b8d63a3:g:Ig0AAOSwaW1d9KMI Interior - Dash Kits Dash Kits : Wood or Carbon https://www.carid.com/2016-ford-edge-dash-kits/ -Shift Paddle Extensions Steering wheel paddle shifter extenions NOTE: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FITMENT OF PARTS, 95% of these are interchangeable between the Sport and ST, BUT it is YOUR responsibility to ensure before purchasing.

The UP intercooler with the garret core is the best intercooler you can get for the platform as of right now. Snmjim and I have it on our edge and we struggle to get 145 degree charge temps on a 80 degree ambient day. That's with 0-120 pulls and some fun backroad driving. Hope this helps

Thanks bud! This is what my father and are hoping people do. My father and i are gladly being the test bed to help ensure foothold in the aftermarket parts industry, everyone here knows about what we are working on and knows it will be available to the consumer soon.

Update: After equipment failure and few hiccups in the production process they should be shipping our swaybar today or tomorrow. will update soon

I cant afford to toss 230.00 dollars right now. However i will gladly chip in 50.00 for the cause. @GTR500 are you interested in doing proper testing?

Okay Mikula Same fuel same tune 2 hours apart.

No thanks needed and it's okay you dont have to be sold on results. It's hard to keep data integrity available when going over 1000 miles, and the individual doesn't understand pictures. Not trying to sound brash....just tired of being the only ones pioneering and only receiving negative comments by those doing little. Maybe you could buy the pipe and post hard found facts for us? We wish we could but alas we are installing pipe and intercooler at the same time as we do not have the money to dyno testing.....not at 120 per session.

Honestly i would love to give a 100% yes, i cant tho sadly. it was only a 1.5 hour time difference first was at 1200 and next run was before 1400. I cant imagine the DA's being massively different. And yes a solid gain, i didn't expect any less though.....that was a hell of a choke point.

sure isn't! will update OP in a moment