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Go back through this entire topic & there's a lot of Info & Pics 2 bring U up 2 speed. Also use this link 2 help U with the front: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/23388-2016-sport-fascia-bumper-cover-etc-removal/
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Not sure how I can convey the 2 into 1 pipe (aka Y pipe) concept & room any better without specific questions... When U remove the Y pipe there is a space there which might allow for the dual pipe concept direct 2 the IC.... However, piping is the least of CPe's concerns at this point N the project. The big issue 2 B ID is will there B enough room behind the hot side of the IC 2 allow 2 inlet pipes that shoot straight back instead of one big pipe going up & ever so slightly back... All questions & concerns will B addressed once we get on the rack at CPe...
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We installed them on J.Bishop's 2015 Sport FWD without an issue 2 date.
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In an effort to keep the thread topics pure I'm responding to Mikula's IC Info request that he posted on the RMM topic thread here for the benefit of all. My Response: Ref attached Pics of the stock IC. Note: The two piping schematics are of the 2016-2017 Edge Sport & the 2017 Fusion Sport. However, due to CPe's direction to keep their proprietary Info confidential for now I cannot distribute Pics nor measurements. I can say that their striving for plug & play. At this point their considering to remove the 2 into 1 pipe on the hot side and go direct into the IC with dual inlets. This will be better for performance and allow cross compatibility with the Fusion Sport. I've also suggested they replace the cold outlet pipe with a consistent circumference pipe.
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Rear Motor Mount (RMM) (2016 Edge Sport)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Accessories & Modifications
In an effort to maintain thread topic purity I've responded to this under the "Intercooler - Sport" thread at: http://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/21117-intercooler-sport/page-5?do=findComment&comment=178733 -
Contrary to popular belief and for those anxiously awaiting the CPe RMM it's finally available! :happy feet: It is true that CPe made the statement in the past that they weren't making any Edge Sport specific parts however, they've agreed to work with us to R&D any potential Fusion Sport parts that could be shared with minimal customizing, we are finally on the CPe radar... We completed fitment without an issue and are in the break in process using a 2016 Edge Sport AWD. It's an 80 Duro bushing and so far there's more vibration (NVH) being fed back to the passenger compartment as would be expected over the stock RMM. http://cp-e.com/shop/ford http://cp-e.com/shop/product-category/ford/ford-edge-2-7tt-15-18/ There's no need to do a "How To" for this since it's only two bolts and it's as simple as the Pics show... Pics: - Stock mount - CPe mount - Comparative of the two - Installed Pics - Ultimate Performance RMM (red) used by Bishop Updates: - NVH was resolved with CPe by updating the RMM with a 60 Duro bushing. The 60 Duro bushing gives a pleasant positive power train connection along with a comfortable NVH factor. A major positive difference from the 80 Duro. CPe claims their RMM is currently used on vehicles with over 1000 hp of which we'll never see on this platform. This concludes our RMM study. Sig Line: There's a point at which you have to realize that the pig is enjoying the mud wrestle...
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Of course it didn't work if U didn't also modify the IC portion of the AGS
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We (SnMJim, Special K & Bishop) just installed a custom IC on his 2016 Edge Sport along with Pics. He will B posting a write-up when he gets time from his uniformed duties however, maybe N the mean time he could post some quick Pics with measurements PLEEEASE!... N the mean time...U may want 2 consider the IC grill & AGS Mods we developed and posted 2 help drop the CAI Temps... BTW, Special K & I R currently working directly with CPe 2 finalize the RMM fitment soon followed by the IC which is N fabrication... :happy feet:
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G2 Edge Sport- Strut Tower Chassis Bar Brace Ladder Set
snmjim replied to Xtra's topic in Accessories & Modifications
Way 2 GO BROTHER! Which tune were U running? -
Nick, As noted at the very beginning of page one "You don't need to remove the wipers. Just lift up the plastic covering/shroud after removing the little metal clips, then you can access the rear bolt hiding there". But the part that I'm amazed at is how did you remove the strut without performing page 4??? Everyone realizes that you may be the Ford Edge Sport GOD and you find no value in our efforts however, we've been receiving multitudes of kudos and appreciation from others who do. At every opportunity we even make a special effort to give you, Xtra & Root credit i.e. "however lets not forget who motivated us". BTW, you have consistently been the only negative critique to our efforts to help others, oh well I guess there has to be one in every group. Oh, we failed to mention Happy Holidays Brother-In-Arms...
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YOU ARE MOST WELCOME Xtra, however lets not forget who motivated us... And on that note...wait for it... Here are the front & rear spring R&R instructions as promised by Special K & myself... :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: NOTE: Download DIY PDF links have been fixed & reestablished thnx to redlancer... 2016 Edge Sport Rear Spring Replacement Instructions.pdf 2016 Edge Sport Front Spring Replacement Instructions.pdf
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G2 Edge Sport- Strut Tower Chassis Bar Brace Ladder Set
snmjim replied to Xtra's topic in Accessories & Modifications
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Awesome & as always I thank U all 4 the unfailing support! Time 2 do a celebratory SKYDIVE...YAHOO! On 2 more Mods...;-)
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As promised but not in the order I was aiming for due to popular demand... Here are the 87, 93 & e30 Unleashed Tune Dyno reports for my 2016 Ford Edge Sport. Notes: - The Dyno used was a Mustang brand (aka the "HEART BREAKER") at the CCBC College in Baltimore, MD. - Deviations from stock: Unleashed Tune, K&N high flow air filter, 170 TStat, IC grille & AGS cooling modifications. - This Dyno is known for conservative numbers. - Initial CAI Temp issues mitigated with IC grill & AGS Mods - Qtr mile: 105.3 mph/12.9 sec - True vehicle weight 4460 lbs Special K's (Son) inputs: Best Dyno run: 299 hp @ 4907 and 365 tq @ 3875 22% parasitic loss = 445 hp with 463 tq @ crank Future modifications along with follow-on Dyno reports: - Colder spark plugs - Blow Off Valve (BOV) - Catch Can - Inter cooler (IC) - Cold air intake (CAI) - Dual exhaust - Down pipe - Turbos Xtra: Please do your Calcs... 2016 Ford Edge Sport-Tuned-e30 Octane (Dyno Report).pdf 2016 Ford Edge Sport-Tuned-e30 Octane (Dyno Report)-1.pdf 2016 Edge Sport - Stock - 87 Oct.pdf 2016 Edge Sport - Stock & Tuned - 93 Oct.pdf
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Topic combined in a later post by SNMJim... :salute:
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Topic combined in a later post by SNMJim... :salute:
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As crazy as this may sound and intimidating to some, this front end comes off as easy as Nick says. We've got this down to 30 minutes now and takes about 60-90 minutes for your first time. Here's the How-To for removal of the front end: Ref attached document 2016 FORD EDGE SPORT FASCIA.pdf
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I use the FORD optional one which is priced correctly, great protection and easy installation...
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Intercooler Grill & AGS (2016 Sport)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Accessories & Modifications
Now for the second half of the stock IC cooling enhancement modification...da, da, dah!... After removing the fascia/bumper cover/front end, or whatever the heck you want to call it, the Active Grill Shutter (AGS) Sys will be fully accessible... Ref attached document... We attempted this Mod without the removing the AGS but no cigar... ...because to remove the shutters you must access the backside. You'll have several options: - Do I leave the AGS off all together? Pros: More cooling air when AGS would normally be totally closed i.e. full run Cons: The primary purpose of the AGS would be defeated which is aero dynamics, secondary is faster warm ups & fuel efficiency. - Cut off IC section at center connection point? Pros: Totally removes AGS and may increase air flow??? Cons: Air will not be funneled into the IC as it would with the framing design of the AGS. You will have to redesign the AGS actuation fork to maintain the actuation alignment of all other shutters. The shutter system is designed on the same concept as most windshield wipers and old steering box designs which is only one part is directly connected to the device generating the motion. For the wiper and steering examples the other wiper and front wheel are connected via mechanical linkage which makes it duplicate the motion of the primary driven wiper and drivers wheel. Must relocate ambient air temp sensor. - Just disconnect AGS wiring harness connection point? Pros: The AGS defaults wide open when off or disconnected, this will provide better cooling during all operations. Cons: Totally defeat the primary and secondary design purposes. Throw one code one time and will not return after being erased. - Modify IC portion of AGS and run AGS disconnected? Pros: Provide maximum IC cooling capability and better radiator cooling. Cons: Totally defeat the primary & secondary design purposes. Throw one code one time and will not return after being erased. - Modify IC portion of AGS and run AGS connected (remmended)? Pros: Maximize IC cooling through all operation ranges. Maintains majority of primary and secondary design purposes. Cons: None noted to date. The choice is yours, I opted for the "recommended" method. Note/s: - Anytime when modifying always come to understand the engineer's original intent of the primary and secondary functions of the thing under consideration for modification. Then determine if the value added for your effort expended and how the engineers intent is impacted is worth the change. - My tool/s of choice for cutting shutter blades: Started with a dremel which worked out great for speed but spins so fast it started to melt the plastic which required a lot more finishing work with a grinder and wire wheel. A jewelers saw worked more precisely with less cleanup but much slower than the dremel... Thanks goes out to Bishop for making this part of the process easier with R&D & finishing work... Damn this documenting takes time, I do enough of it for Uncle Sam... A totally thankless labor of love/camaraderie... 2016 Ford Edge Sport AGS Mod.pdf -
Intercooler Grill & AGS (2016 Sport)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Accessories & Modifications
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Intercooler Grill & AGS (2016 Sport)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Accessories & Modifications
I'm in for one! Did he cut the entire honeycomb grill out & regrill or just cut out the blanked off part of the honeycomb pattern? -
Intercooler Grill & AGS (2016 Sport)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Accessories & Modifications
Nick, What is having your grill CNC'd mean? -
Intercooler Grill & AGS (2016 Sport)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Accessories & Modifications
After a Wknd of Sport front end R&D here are the validated facts (Ford factory manuals, Ford body shop & Ford Reps) and removal & modification instructions for the IC grill: At the time of this posting...the 2015-2018 Sport Edge grill only comes in two flavors one with block warmer accommodations and one without (Ref Pic). The grill I'm working with in the Pics is without, we know this for sure because we confirmed by ordering the only two listed for the Sport and compared (Ref Pic). Note: the full lower grill seen on other 2015-2017 Edge models will not work, nice try but no cigar (Ref Pic)... So after removing the front bumper cover/fascia the grill is fully accessible. We did not find any electronics that warranted the blanked off section of the grill however, we don't have the ACC option and we were able to confirm via Nick Halstead's post in this string that is the purpose for the blanked off section. Unfortunately a full open grill is not offered by Ford at the time of this post.... Just goes to validate the fact that engineers don't make designs without justification, whether good or bad... The grill is held in with integrated plastic clips and it took two of us carefully man handling from both sides to remove it without damaging (Ref Pics). MODIFICATION: Ref attached document... If you perform this Mod you should consider the AGS Sys Mod noted later in this topic string, these two combined dropped the CAI temps 15-20 degrees... However, I do love the custom SEMA IC Inlet which I so want (Ref Pics)... 2016 FORD EDGE SPORT INTERCOOLER GRILL MODIFICATION.pdf -
Daytime Running Lights (DLR)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Glass, Lenses, Lighting, Mirrors, Sunroof (BAMR), Wipers
Skill sets are always the double edge sword and I totally agree... With this issue time will tell... I'll post any negative impacts however, if the fading allows more light out but still provides the blacked out look when the car is off I'm good with that... Worse case scenario...tape off the fascia instead of pulling the front off and shoot another coat, 15 min & BAM done!... :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: -
Daytime Running Lights (DLR)
snmjim replied to snmjim's topic in Glass, Lenses, Lighting, Mirrors, Sunroof (BAMR), Wipers
Root, Let me know if U locate those fog lamps, they R baddass! Also looking for - The IC grill used N the SEMA/WEBASTO Edge. - And/or developing an after market performance IC. Any & all support and/or information is greatly appreciated.