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Happens all the time when I am in the canyons. Flat out full throttle into the corner get off the gas, hit the brakes hard, turn in, then jab that throttle and burn rubber out of the corner. Better throttle response would help a lot with precise control when you have a 300 ft drop off cliff on one side and a wall of stone on the other.
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The 65mm throttle body just arrived and it is beautiful. Almost all my parts have arrived and all I need is the cold side pipe to start the transformation .
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My Ultimate Performance intercooler with the Garrett core #002 for the G2 Edge Sport 2.7L EcoBoost just arrived !!! :happy feet: :happy feet: . The welds and workmanship are great and with almost 70% more area than the stock IC it should work as good as it looks. Big thanks to snmjim and Special_K for making this happen . They have #001 You can get yours here: https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F15-ford-edge-sport-27-front-mount-intercooler
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Sorry about that 037 you are far from stock .My bad
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Using the weight / time = Hp calculator, 037 made 437hp on a 100 octane race tune to do that 12.744 @ 108 . I calculated that hp# using 4400lbs for the car and 200lbs for 037. And that is a stock car with just a tune. Now add big Turbos a new intercooler, RMM and cold side pipe along with a custom tune and 100 race gas...I don't see why we couldn't do it either .
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Gunning for the new Alfa Stelvio Quadrifoglo 5 passenger Crossover 505hp 2.9L TT V6 4,400lbs. $81K base. With optional big brakes similar to mine $90K. It goes up from there. Can't wait to see the look on that 81 to +100K Alfa owners face when a Ford Edge smokes him....
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I just took a look at all the photos I took and 224hp was the best Stock I could find. I did find the best V3 and it was 245.9hp. Next time I will take screen shots of every pull. I thought that I would receive all of the info recorded by the Dyno, but that was not the case missed fuel mapping and other info. You can bet when I go in next time I will get every bit of info I can .
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Using a hp/ speed calculator http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php Your 4,400 lb car needs 417.61 hp to get a 12.744 !/4 mile time.
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Received some more info on the Dyno tests worst stock pull 214 HP. Best V3 241 HP.
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They state 8 to 12 hp with no tune on a stock 2.7, I would think that it would be more with a tune, And yes the cost is up there , but no tax and free shipping. You are still looking at $500 bucks, the cost of hot rodding has never been inexpensive.
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With my new turbos being able to move more air, the stock throttle body became a choke point. So I just ordered up a BBK 65mm throttle body good for 8 to 12 HP on a otherwise stock 2.7. With my setup it should help a bit more than than that. This is a plug and play unit. Loosen 2 hose clamps and remove 4 easy to get to bolts, swap out the units, plug in the wire harness and you are good to go.
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What have you done to/with your Edge/MKX today?
Xtra replied to WWWPerfA_ZN0W's topic in Accessories & Modifications
Every morning while the car warms up I dust it off with a California Car Duster then use Smart Detailer spray with a microfiber towel to clean off any bird droppings and those little yellow spots caused by bee poop. This keeps the car looking sharp between washes. I like the Smart product line and the detailer goes on easy with no streaking. -
Friday the 13 is my lucky day , my IC grill just got here and it looks great. The cuts are laser sharp, super precise and it looks like it came from the factory that way. Thanks to Special_K & snmjim for making this possible.
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Never had it on a track .
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Let the car cool down then did the V3 first. The the Stock tune was tested second.
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I did some research on the DynoDynamics Dyno I tested on, and I found this. I copied and pasted it. It says a lot about the DD and the controversy around DynoJet VS DynoDynamics. As long as I stay on that DD Dyno it will be no problem as I will be comparing apples to apples. And if I ever get a chance to get on a DynoJet then I should expect more. Here is the crux of the controversy . Dyno Dynamics vs. Dynojet Hey everyone! I know there's been a lot of discussion about the differences in Dyno Dynamics vs. Dynojet power numbers. Well here's a little comparison for everyone. I'm hope this sheds some light on some of the misconceptions that pop up when comparing different dyno types. This EVO X was tuned on a Dynojet at another local shop on Monday. The owner of the EVO, a mutual customer of ours, stopped by yesterday night and we threw his car on our Dyno Dynamics to see how the numbers would compare. Although, there are a few factors that would cause a variance in the % difference, this particular example shows that the Dyno Dynamics dyno reads ~12% lower in peak power than the Dynojet dyno. It's not called the 'Heart Breaker' dyno for nothing Now for the rebuttal: DynoDynamics is regarded as the worlds most accurate dyno, it has a level of precision that almost no other dyno can match. Further what sets it apart from dynojet is it actually is measuring rear wheel torque under full real world load and not just measuring inertia. Dyno Dynamics does not read low, it reads right. Dynojet reads HIGH, and thats a very important distinction.
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There is a place on the way to the tuner that sells 100 octane but why do that, I need real world everyday numbers . Now if I were to go to a race track and try to lay down some low times I could do that ,but for now I need daily driver numbers with the fuel I can get anyplace.
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If this is the best that the V3 tune can do with 91octane then I need those performance turbos and IC, because I want another 100 to 150 hp. The fact that power dropped off at 5,000 rpm needs to be addressed as well.
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Just got back from the Dyno Shop and have the base numbers. I was surprised by the numbers especially the V3 output and how after 5,000rpm power fell off so quick. All numbers are taken at the wheels. Stock HP 224.3 @ 5,000 rpm Stock TQ 280 @ 3,400 rpm LMS 91 V3 HP 231.7 @ 5250rpm LMS 91V3 TQ 305 @ 3,500 rpm Pink is stock. Green is V3 Tune. The upper two lines are TQ. The bottom two lines are HP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xcf44viKrA
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Tomorrow I have some Dyno time scheduled to set the base line. The car will have my air intake hack, a aFe air filter and the MRT Axle back mufflers in place. First we will run the stock tune, then run a LMS 91 octane V3 tune. This will establish the base line before the new turbos are installed. After the turbos are installed I will run the tests again first with the stock tune then with the new LMS custom tune.
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The Reische Performance 170F TStat is the same Cold Side design as the stock thermostat . The LMS 160F TStat is a Hot Side design and is not the same as the stock design. That alone would make me go with the Reische 170F TStat. In February 2018 I approached Galpin Auto Sports to install my 170F TStat again. This time I got two Ford Technicians and their performance guru involved. All three were against me installing it. One Tech was afraid a warning light would come on the other said it would make codes show up when I took it in for service and confuse the techs doing repairs, because they would not know that the TStat what been changed. The performance guru said that the computer might have problems with the fans and fuel mix thinking that the engine has never warmed up. To me it sounded like they were playing on the safe side and they did not know for sure what it would do, after that discussion I did not install the TStat. When I change my turbos and IC then I will go ahead and change the TStat to the 170F Cold Side unit. By then I will be all in getting a custom tune from LMS and testing that I can run the stock tune and pass smog. I am sure that lots of people run these TStat with no problems but because I was at a Ford dealership they had to cover their ass and say no don't do it.
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Just got the word that they are shipping out on Monday . Now thats a fast turnaround for custom work at a great price. . I counted the all holes in the grill.. ( Not much to do today ). The new modified grill has 30.8% more air flow than the stock grill. That should help the IC considerably .
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Wow, looks better than I ever imagined and should help with the intercooler temperatures. Great job!
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Do you have the Easy Entry and Exit feature on your car? Look in your owners manual under seats. It is on page 138 in my 2016 manual, this may help you.