TomCinMI

We can't thank you enough, @aphxtwinin!

I greatly appreciate this thread, @CCMAYES72, and the input of everyone, inc. @Mikula for the video. The TSB linked earlier, #17-0065, definitely speaks to a problem which has continued beyond the 2015-2017 range of the TSB, since my '19 Edge is affected. My dealer replaced the entire right-side underbody shield and its hardware last May, which is the first that I became aware of the issue, not having located this thread until a week ago--and there's been no recurrence of the problem on the right after 8 months. The rattling/fluttering from the left shield began more recently, and I'm going in tomorrow to have it replaced. The day the second shield was ordered, I made a point to ride along while the technician listened for the flapping along the driver's side; the service manager put this tech with me because he's dealt with the problem quite a lot, particularly on Escapes. After the noise was reproduced on the highway, I then took a look while the vehicle was lifted. The fastener beneath the rear floor had developed too much play in it. I did ask the tech about the foam rings/gaskets in the hardware kit which is linked on this thread, and he twice didn't specifically respond regarding the rings, but he did emphatically state that he's never had a customer return complaining of recurrence after the entire assembly has been replaced. Maybe there have been fairly recent improvements in the replacement product. The vehicle's under warranty--and any replacement parts/labor should be warranted for 12 months anyway; so I encourage @1004ron & anyone else to do what is my plan: Have the thing replaced on Ford's tab if the vehicle is no longer warranted but fewer than 12 months have passed since a previous replacement, which hopefully won't be necessary but certainly should get their attention financially. If I don't post again, the current replacements are continuing to hold up and/or I'm dead. ? Worst case scenario, I'll eventually pay someone a lift fee for applying the best possible version of the bent insulated-wire fix.

I'm at 10,700 miles, and my vehicle has required minimal time in the shop--never overnight. You quite clearly have been dealing with an exceptionally lame dealership, which is not the same thing as Ford overall. BTW, nice job of typing "transmission specialist" "with a straight face." ? I've had both TSB's for the PCM applied, have addressed the service notice about the adaptive headlamps, and tomorrow will be having the second of the two underbody shields and its hardware replaced to hopefully end the known issue of a flapping noise at higher speeds due to looseness; on that latter item, y'all may want to check the Forum's homepage a little later this afternoon, on the right side of the page under recent posts, since I'll be resurrecting the excellent thread about the underbody-shield problem and adding some worthwhile info. Other than those pretty easy-fix experiences with the ST--in large part thanks to helpfulness on this Forum--I've been very happy with the vehicle. Everything considered, Ford is a well above average manufacturer by today's standards, and everywhere in the industry are bad apples/jerks/duds in sales and service. I love a lot about Ford quality, despite the frustrations which we've experienced with these two transmissions; I really like their emphasis on tech, especially safety tech (+ safety overall), as well as infotainment, to include SYNC 3 and FordPass Having noticed the recent uptick in e-mailed notifications for this thread, I thought, huh, maybe a third tranny TSB has been issued, but evidently not. I've been keeping my powder dry since having the second TSB's flash done around Nov. 1, letting the adaptive learning do its thing before I chime in again. I have no current complaints. The shifting is now plenty smooth for me. Not having any flares/bucking or harsh engagements, although rarely I might perceive a slight clunk when transitioning from R to D, then I've asked myself, "Did you quite come to a full stop before putting it into D?" I'm not a paddle-shift guy, in part because we don't have mountains here; also I have other places to put my attention than on manually shifting, and paddle-shifting on this vehicle, at least before the TSB's came out, was largely reviewed as "not all that." Post-TSB's, though, and after the Michigan ice subsides, I'll do some toying with the paddles. I repeat that I'm happy with this vehicle, definitely all-in-all; it's fun to drive, looks great, and I'm keeping everything documented so I can make the best case at resale.

Gracias, @jamie1073!

Briefly off-topic, since the above was mentioned: Do you mean TSB 18-2378, dated 12-14-2018--which I've located via web search on NHTSA--about a "slosh noise" from the tank, mostly when it's over 3/4 full, & while driving at low speeds? The affected Edge model years are 2015-2019-- those with AWD--for the usual "some" vehicles.

Zactly. I bought the vehicle for several reasons, not inc. tire roasting, e.g. automatic braking, lane-centering with stop-&-go, attractiveness &, as far as the powertrain, giddyup for overtaking & any necessary evasive maneuvers. I love my vehicles & treat them with respect; works out great at resale. ?

That's good for the tires.

Please do so, whatever they say/do, thanks.

Thank you very much, @Perblue!

Congrats in advance, @vmaxbaby! And, in a nutshell, please, without my dragging this too far off topic: What adaptive headlight issue? (Regardless, there's pretty much always gonna be sumpin' in any model year.)

Sure 'nuf, baby. As I alluded to, above, had my PCM reprogram done the day after Easter, a little over 3 weeks now, & mine is going great. IOW, it's safe to come out from hiding & get your ST. ? Mine's plenty powerful!

Tossing in my experience to date: 559 miles since I've been letting the Fuelly app do the math; my usual approx. 50%-50% city-hwy is averaging 21.7 mpg for that distance. The owner's manual implies that engine break-in shouldn't be considered complete until 2,000 miles, so I reset one of the tripometers at that point & have averaged 21.2 on the computer--with a significant chunk of that last 1,949 miles being during the polar vortex. Also worth noting is that my 9 miles each way to work barely is enough to warm up the engine, so that's not very representative of highway driving. Spring & fall being best for fuel economy, here comes that effect. Having owned two Fusion hybrids prior to my two Edges, I've pretty much been "whipped into" economical driving, with the techniques & habits which that entails; having said that, if I'm running a little behind when leaving for work, I may go 78 with the Driver Assist stuff active, but then I"m inclined to take the nighttime return trip at 65. Seems that the EPA has been quite accurate for me. Only 87 octane so far, but I'll probably take the manual's clue to run 93 during summer's dog days. Always top-tier gas, generally Mobil, & I've converted over to Mobil 1 Annual Protection full synthetic.

Turns out that another aspect of this is that if the driver uses MyKey, as I do, Lane Keeping defaults to Alert only on each start-up.

Yeah, thanks to you & others, that's why I'm no longer concerned about a "winking" DRL on the Edge; it & the turn signal, on the 2019's, are very close together, & safety should be paramount.

I find the fact that the owner's manual makes no mention of the compatibility, or not, of the two systems to be an oversight by the company; if there was something against using them together, surely Ford should state it. I was "that close" to bouncing the question off of Ford Owner (& still am) when Sage started this thread, so I decided to exchange some thoughts here. As most, or all, of you realize, Lane Keeping doesn't activate until above 40 mph, after it's been turned on, & I'd prefer to just keep it on, so it stays ready to work when I get above 40 in a non-highway situation or while I'm accelerating between 40 & cruising speed upon entering the freeway. I saw a YouTube video about 10 days ago in which someone said that if Lane Centering isn't detecting one of the lines, then Lane Keeping will at least nudge the vehicle toward the center from the one discernible line, as a backup; I don't recall who posted that video, but I didn't give it huge credibility because I noted that the guy isn't an engineer. Turning Lane Keeping on & off--then on again & off again--depending on the circumstances, would get tedious, so as I said, naturally the preference would be to simply keep it on & let it supplement Lane Centering as I've described, provided there isn't a conflict. To reiterate, when both systems are on & I'm using Adaptive Cruise on the highway, my Lane Keeping only seems to vibrate the wheel weakly/unreliably (even with sensitivity set to high). And, so far, I've not noticed the Lane Keeping kicking in to nudge the Edge when Lane Centering temporarily isn't detecting a line; I'll try to keep in mind to put that to the test. Maybe I will end up configuring for vibrate-only on LK, although LK's steering torque could also be helpful if LC hiccups.