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Are there any proven driveability or performance issues associated to getting this TSB done? I see where there were possible Cat. issues, but were they proven to be caused by the lack of this reprogramming, or were they as a direct result of the reprogramming? What about your MPG following the reprogramming, better, worse, about the same?

I just checked mine and it is still open: Recalls * Reprogram powertrain control module Recall Incomplete Description Reprogram powertrain control module Campaign# 24E10

So you think it was pulled for everyone that got the letter?(I haven't checked yet) How do you know?

Interesting! I'll have to check mine. Congrats. on the clean smog check. To everyone else that got this letter and that has not had this reprogramming done: Does your vehicle still show that this reprogramming still needed?

That strikes me as a significant decrease.What were your avg. speeds? What about your MPG for urban or non interstate driving?

This begs the question of how many owners unaware of this issue have had to replace their CAT's on their dime? Additionally, just how far out of Fed. or State emissions spec. is it in this "as manufactured"state? If this is in fact a problem why haven't we seen owners complain about failed emissions testing in years past?

Thanks!

Thanks for your reply, but sorry to see the issues are experiencing. Make sure you keep us posted on what happens next. Anybody else having issues after this recall reprogramming?

This recall certainly begs the question of how many have, or will have, to have their cats. replaced as a result of this issue?

I am a bit suspicious on how Ford got away with (I assume) being out of allowable tailpipe emissions for so long before doing anything about it. I would have thought this forum would have been full of people that live in states that require emissions check complaining as to their vehicle failing that test. That didn't happen, right? What changed?

That is a good question! What is your average daily MPG? Mine is a little over 24 MPG in around town driving and a little bit better doing over the open road driving. I wish I had an idea as to what the end result will be after the recall work in terms of drivability, and performance.

This seems to be focused on 2016 3.5 equipped Edges but I am not sure about that. I am wondering if this so called software "fix" will degrade performance and or long term drivability? I expect it's too early for anyone here to have had the recall performed, but when you do (if you do) please respond to this thread with any changes you might notice with your Edge. Seems odd that it only seems to be targeting the 2016 model year and that if there were an emission issue that it would only be known about now?

Tim; I found that if I moved the FOB far enough from the hitch / trailer when I unhitched the trailer I didn't have that problem. I lay the FOB in the floor of my boat before I fool with the lights,chains, & the un-hitching of the trailer.

What brand replacement did you use?

One thing is for sure I don't want another two piece lug nut!

Thanks. Anyone else have any thoughts / experiences about a replacement alternative that they have used?

Ben; I find myself need to replace the lug nuts on my 2016. Did you buy the Dorman, and if so how have they been? If you did not buy Dorman what did you go with and how have they done for you?

I got to wondering how the story of "wet floorboards" played out and how time has treated those affected vehicles? I remember that Ford did a sales hold once the problem had created a lot of "wet" issues for new owners and they also repurchased some vehicles as I recall. I seem to remember that the problem was determined to be a sealing robotic operation that was not programmed correctly. I remember at that time there were several large threads here talking about the issue and what Ford was doing about it. In any case, are there any owners of these vehicles here now and if so are there any lingering issues?

It's interesting that many on this thread have the same purchase preferences. My wife drives a 2016 Fusion and I a 2016 Edge. Given the fact that Ford killed both of these vehicles we probably will jump the "Blue Oval" ship in the next year or so. Given the likelihood of her 1.5 developing an appetite for coolant, and my 3.5 needing a new water pump or worse we will have to look elsewhere. I think I am ready to make a move towards EV's for my replacement and have been following the trials and tribulations of the KIA EV6 and must say it looks to me like that vehicle still needs some development before I jump there. I am also looking to see how the new Blazer EV and Equinox EV fare with early buyers. The Blazer's styling is a bit over the top for my tastes, but its size seems to fit my needs better than the Nox. I like the styling of the Nox. but I think it might be a bit too small. I'll have to wait and see. I drove the Mach E and liked it, but it felt a bit too small so I ruled it out.Come on Ford get with the program!

Ron; Do you have any idea as to the change procedure used for a windshield R & R? What I mean is; Are the wipers removed, and given the close proximity of the windshield edges to the body (flush) did you see any marks, scrapes on the body as a result of the replacements? What about the plastic on the bottom near the cowl, is it removed too? Thanks.

I just had my windshield assaulted by a rock the size of a boulder, well it sounded like one when it hit. The impact created a 3/4 non complete circle about the size of a silver dollar with the actual impact area pitted @ the center. I suspected that it was not repairable and that was confirmed by the glass shop. The impact area is high on the left side of the windshield about 2" below the roof line. I was wondering what would be involved in replacing my windshield and this thread does not make me feel "warm & fuzzy" about that operation. I am going to leave it be for the time being and see if the the impact defect will grow with summer thermal cycles as I expect it to. I put a clear adhesive film over the impact area to try to keep moisture out and will most likely have to replace the windshield come my next state inspection due next April, if not sooner. I can only hope my replacement experience goes smoother than the example discussed here. I guess I need to congratulate the SOB cutting the grass in his driveway with the discharge chute pointed into traffic of a major thoroughfare for this issue. Good shot Dude! :>(

Check your VIN here to see; https://www.ford.com/support/recalls/

Thanks, I had to laugh as I saw it coming. Sounds like a move I might have made, if not via "the snake" the hose on the petcock would have blown off. Well live and learn. Do you think it would be possible to "force" all the old coolant out using the compressed air? As it was, how much were you able to remove as well as you can guess, given what went on the floor?

When drained your's, how messy was it? Perhaps, I should ask how much fluid went where you wanted it to go on a percentage basis?

This is a timely thread as I too will be changing my 3.5 over to the "new" Yellow. I wondered what was involved. I also was a bit concerned about how many "partial" cycles it would take to do a complete change over, then whether or not I should get a vacuum refill so all the air gets pulled out of the system. I also wondered about what motorcraft uses in the 50-50 pre-mix? I bet it's not distilled water! Flymore did you get that drain valve opened?