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virtually everyone interested in the topic, and even a few who don't care looking to waste time either way, what's the harm?? just do it (thanks Nike)

FWIW, I do not see this feature listed in the Edge manual. I had a similar feature on my Vdub and found..... I never used it... cool idea, just not much actual usage. what was better is the ability to roll UP and CLOSE all the windows and roof. That was more useful as I found situations where I was in where everything was open and I needed to fast close and go and that was way more useful.

funny you mention that version checker as now that I think about it, this issue crept up after I removed the iPod from the USB port to put in the USB drive. since then I have had this issue. that is why I recall this not being an issue before.. I had only ever out the USB iPod cable in 1 time and never took it out until I plugged in the USB drive. I have unplugged and replugged several times, but it always the same result since I did update checker... NOT implying it was the USB checker.. just saying I notice since then that it stops recalling the USB since then. interesting

Could not find this issue listed. When I first got my car, when I plug in the iPod to USB port, you would go to the User Device tab on the Nav system and select Input as USB. Then, every time you restart the car and come and go, it would just start up the iPod and play. For some reason, it now seems like it, upon restarts, is defaulting back to the "Line In" (which I never use) and not "USB" as it was and should minutes earlier. I have been messing with settings a lot getting things configured as I like and do not think I could have done something to make this happen, but it is annoying to stop and run into the store and come back out and restart and have to re-tell the Nav system that I want "USB" and not "Line In" over and over. I swear it did not use to do this. Any thoughts?

I am thinking about reading if if you do it

would agree(d) 100% we can move on and just try to stick to and add new useful data to this thread as it comes around/is learned

you know... I gotta agree with this. I was reading this thread before I got my Edge and wondered how it would affect me. well, now I wonder how the hell peoples heads touch the headrest? mine doesn't. I don't have the best posture, but come on, I had to consciously put my head on the headrest to feel it. "Some people must let their heads flop around like a newborn's or something..." LOL tooo funny! :hysterical2:

Solas - I guess that I didn't actually think I 'proved' there were 2 different 'Sync versions' per se when it was talked about that Sync operated different for those with Nav setup versus the basic stereo no-nav setup. I was just relaying info from Ford I got and I did not decipher that as 2 actual different Sync versions, I read it as the same Sync version which allowed functions in 1 not in the other. For example, Mac OS 10.5 is the same for everyone, but putting it on a laptop and putting it on a desktop open functions available on 1 that are not on the other based on the hardware of the unit. But it is still all system 10.5 - same system for everyone, different result based on what hardware you install it on. I would also agree with you that in theory "since auto manufacturers do indeed do production updates through the year, most likely the latest 2008 MKX with NAV and THX have the update (or will very soon)." - but in Akirby's estimation, this is an assumption and not cool of you or I or anyone to make and I was just tying to show assumptions are a logical step in solving problems and a very needed tool and we all make and use them. ----------------- Here are some of the relative quotes, direct from Ford techs, that I got in emails that are of interest just to this thread ----------------- Scot: "The status checker update is for the first update recommended for 2008 model year Lincoln vehicles. Future updates will already have the status checker part of the particular update." Scott: "You are correct, it does not state that but it was originally set up for that update." - in answer to my question that if the 'checker' is in fact just for the Lincoln with THX & special language needs, why does it not say so on the description? Scott: "The status checker update is recommended for 2008 model year Lincoln vehicles equipped with navigation radios and THX sound with the Sync language set to either French or Spanish.) Installing it will not provide any benefit to your use of Sync, nor have any negative effects for you." Scott: "The Screen Controls Service Enhancement is able to be installed in your Sync system, despite the fact that it is not necessary for your configuration. Installing it will not provide any benefit to your use of Sync, nor have any negative effects for you." - when asked just what would happen if you tired to add that THX Lincoln update with special language needs to a car not meeting those specs. I was just fishing for data when I asked this. Scott: "We are aware of the issues that customers are having with the update program on SyncMyRide.com and are looking into a solution." - when asked about my personal download/upload issue - and that others were reporting about having troubles downloading, and or uploading to verify the checker

would not pay someone to do this install. it is very easy, even for novice I think - installing my splash guards was longer and harder. you and a buddy should be able to do this and save your 130$ - which almost covers the cost of the kit also, the ballast hummmmm is expected and as you said, no relay harness seems to be needed with these digital ballast kits anyway.

here we go then..... so, I can't make assumptions and you can? please. you just said "don't you think that new Sync modules being put into cars right now already have that foreign language update?" - that is a 100% assumption on your part to assume they are doing that, is it not? You also 'assume' that there could be 2 different version out there - the old in older cars and a new one in newer cars - by saying what you said. You like to put words in my mouth and spin these things in the wrong direction. I reported back exactly, in quotes, what the tech said. And the funny thing about that is, they are reporting they will be doing exactly what I said they would likely be doing. but you just blow that fact off and move to some other point you can harp on. Now, if you want to ask for my assumptions, since you routinely make them like any human does when solving vexing issues, I will give it to you: I am not assuming they are or are not doing what you said here. So Solas... you going to come to my aid now? You don't think: "you don't understand even when people who do understand tell you differently (and not just me, either)." is just as inflammatory and cutting statement to make?

Solas - I was simply just trying to head off another online bickering match. Not to worried about peoples opinions of me though. That's life. As for my source of information, if you read my posts, I am pretty good about prefacing where my info comes from and in this case, it is direct from Ford. Emails (of which I keep them all) with the Ford techs I have opened at the Syncmyride.com website.

Here is a new claim: 1. Add Device 2. Select Handsfree Device 3. Select Next 4. Tap on Sync when it appears in Discover Results 5. It will ask for a code 6. Do not enter the 6 digit PIN that is displayed on the radio 7. Instead, press the Seek> button to see other options 8. It will show you "Special Pin Option" 9. Hit OK 10. It will display "0000" 11. NOW, ENTER "0000" INTO YOUR PALM AND IT WILL WORK! not sure yet if this is doable on a Ford with the Navigation/Media unit - or just the basic radio system. Post #26 above eludes to this as it says "it may be helpful to have Sync find your phone using the Find Devices option or using a Special PIN. Those options are available during the pairing process, the former by pressing the Seek arrows when Find Sync is shown, the latter is available by pressing the Seek arrows when the PIN is shown on the screen.

the 'checker' was only meant for those that installed that 1 update - Lincoln with THX and French Spanish - they just failed to mention that part in the description they told me. So, the checker was only meant to check for those people, and of NO value whatsoever for all of the rest of us that are OEM (as we are all still OEM) - and will not be carried forward in the future. it is a dead and obsolete piece of software at the next update. So, maybe it still collected habits and maybe not. I cannot view the CAB file so have no real idea...But the more interesting part, at least as I see it, is that like I said and theorized about, there would be no reason to have a stand alone checker when it will be built into the next update.. like every other piece of software in the world does. sure enough, it seems that they were on the same page as I was and that 'checker' will not be an ongoing piece into the future. But look man.. I am not interested in getting into yet another boring circular peeing match with you if that is where you want to go again.. so lets say we just leave it at this and take their new disclosure for what it is.. and call it done

just wanted to report back that the last 2 nights I have had to drive during the night time and the digital ballast HIDs are the tits.... not an issue and no relay needed (at this stage) with the retro-solutions kit - it is super awesome when you unlock your car from a distance with the key gob and the perimeter lighting comes on with the HIDs... looks tight

I am in SoCal.. I took in my title and POW.. got the incentive

Ha just got this email from Ford "The status checker update is for the first update recommended for 2008 model year Lincoln vehicles. Future updates will already have the status checker part of the particular update."

Conquest Cash was no listed available in my region BUT just ask them or tell them you pan to do it... I did... and it worked

I just added another ballast photo(s).. see them as I put mine on the lights square flat housing