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I'm not meaning to sound rude, but you couldn't (nor Dave-M) have this response if you'd read what I'd said in its entirety. 1. I already accounted for "lead foot" ad nauseium in about 6 different places in great detail, so this is not a valid point or theory. 2. I have also stated I am a former dealer and have owned literally dozens of cars, with one of the West Coasts best mechanics working as a partner for many years. I am well aware of tire pressure, dirty filters and other such things. 3. I cannot lemon it because they refuse to acknowledge there is something wrong in the first place. They are hiding behind the infamous "mileage may vary" which gives them a get out of jail free card. 4. Dave-M, I have already stated very clearly how I did the math. The math is the math. I don't even have an onboard MPG calculator, I have the SE. Again, my intention is not to be rude. But I have seen how these types of questions derail a post into an entirely new direction because the replies to the original post have already been addressed. My point and my wish is to challenge the extent that the manufacturer may take this law, in court.

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1. I have 10,000 miles even and have changed the oil at the dealership. 2. If people are regularly getting 17-26 mpg, then this proves exactly what I am saying. There is something wrong with this particular vehicle and they need to fix it.

Ford corporate told me on the phone to basically piss off about this issue. Please read the RipOffReport.com post I just added. Seeking a Class Action lawyer for MPG problems. Copy of Report I leased a 2007 Ford Edge primarily because of then stated MPG figures of 18 city 24 Highway. To this date I don't know of any Sport Utility that can be bought for $20,000-21,000 of this size, power or looks. I bought this car because of its EPA ratings. People like me are buying cars and other vehicles based on their EPA sticker ratings because of gas being $5 a gallon or more. When someone gets substantially less, the manufacturer hides behind the clause "mileage may vary." I am seeking a lawyer who will gather a group of Ford owners who have substantially less mileage than the sticker, who are driving in normal conditions. (It will do no good if you tow a vehicle, drive the Grape Vine every day with the A/C on or other such things.) See the Following Links Recently Found: There is a winnable legal solution SUV Gas Mileage Lawsuit Won Hybrid MPG Lawsuit I am getting 12.6 mpg - 13.2 COMBINED, AFTER A FULL TANK of 75% city and 25% highway. That's COMBINED mileage by any math. The best tank I ever got was after 85% freeway at 15.5 mpg. My math is done with a calculator by how miles driven to the gallons used. There has to be a point where the manufacturer can not stiff a buyer when the mileage is astronomically lower than posted. I have contacted the dealer and the manufacturer. I wrote a letter to the CEO and Chairman. A woman called from (313) 845-6232 and basically told me to "go pound sand." She said she represented the CEO directly. This is the type of service you will get from Ford. Hey Ford? Maybe this is why you and GM are going down in a ball of FAILURE. Hyundai, Toyota and other manufacturers are kicking the crap out of you. I wonder WHY? They live in the same world as you do. Have the same resources, have the same opportunities, have the same science and technology at their disposal. Yet you’re products are perceived as pieces of junk. When people give you a shot, a patriotic gesture, you tell them to “f*ck off” when you’re product is found to live up to your reputation? FORD, Chrysler and GM DESERVE to be bankrupt. They are a disgrace to this country. Our 2003 Ford King Ranch F250 is literally falling apart. The front suspension is going, the air just went out, the sun roof has squeaked from day one, the body trim is rusting again after being replaced for rusting, and the rubber window moldings are literally disintegrating. 42,000 miles!!! I asked the representative specifically, if I had gotten say, 8 mpg would they still tell me the same thing? QUOTE "YES." "We are not going to do anything about it whatsoever." Background: I lease or buy 2 new cars PER YEAR and am a former dealer. I have personal ownership experience to talk from. Our 2008 Hyundai Veracruz AWD gets 14.5 city and 23 highway. We drive it exactly the same way, in the same area as the Edge. The Edge is 4,282lbs and the Veracruz is 4,431. Both have about the same exact HP. Please note the following. 1. I drive every car exactly the same and have the same driving habits for 25 years. 2. I do tend to drive fast, but not tire squealing off the line drags. In fact, I drive as fast as everyone else around me. I keep up with traffic. Regardless, since I drive the same way in all vehicles, then there is no merit to the “mileage may vary” clause because I have already proven that no other car I have owned has had this discrepancy. If my driving habits are the same form car to car, there is NO VALID CLAIM that it is driving habits causing the mileage, if none of the other cars I own or owned got less than the EPA on those particular vehicles. 3. I have owned at least 8 Mercedes Benz S500's from 1992 to 1998, of which with the same driving habits I got 13-14 city and 18-20 highway with a 300 + hp V8 hauling a block shaped 4,700lbs. I'd like you to repeat reading the specs and MPG I got with 8 separate S500's and then explain how a modern V6 carrying less weigh is even CAPABLE of getting under 13mpg? 4. I recently ended my lease on an 07' BMW 300hp 335i twin turbo sedan auto which I never once got less than 17.8 combined end of tank miles. I drove that machine HARD. I got 26-32 highway when going to Vegas. 5. I had a V8 BMW Wagon that I got 15 city and 24 highway and that car weighed 3,880lbs. running an old style V8. The manufacturers of a vehicle must be held accountable to their product specifications. No one can sell a house with an Ocean view where the buyer walks out one day and it's nothing but roof tops and telephone poles. That’s called FRAUD and it says LAWSUIT all over it. A pair of shoes that have the soles melt on hot asphalt would not be tolerated and neither should wild claims about MPG. In fact Fords main advertising feature on this vehicle is the mpg! False advertising is against the law. Period. The bottom line is that a manufacturer cannot be able to fraudulently entice buyers to buy a product that does not even remotely perform as advertised. This is nothing different than a construction company buying a tractor that is supposed to be able to pull 25,000 lbs and the engine seizes at 12,000 lbs. There is NO difference.

I'm rather disappointed that upgraded shocks/ suspension doesn't come with the Sport. Most brands Sport packages have this. The standard system is far from "sporty." I think the pricing will be a bargain compared to after market, and will be slightly over the SEL price and well under a Limited.