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It's going to evolve like Windows did apparently and I won't be happy with it until 3.1.1

That sounds about right. Would you mind posting what your average MPH was for the same period? I'm guessing that you are doing faster than city speeds but slower than a full 65MPH average. The way I think about it, if you want to get that 25 or 27 MPG rating (EPA estimate) to come true, you need to AVERAGE highway speeds. If you do ANY idling or city driving, that will go down.

hahha... Sorry... I don't have any Barry Manilow.

Honestly, I would go for a Job 2 vehicle if you are buying a 2011. They did several enhancements including a redesign of the roof structure to bring the Rollover strength to 4.7x the vehicle weight where it was 3.5x before. Also, the quieter side mirrors were introduced during Job 2. In fact, if I were to buy right now, I'd wait for the 2012. New side indicator mirrors (blinkers a la Explorer), extra baffling in the D pillars, AND the doors are installed with these super high tech laser guided robots that can get it within 1/10 of a millimeter of where it is supposed to be mounted. http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=34721

Precisely. The other windows just compound that fact. I try not to look through both windows at the same time. As for carbonedge+'s comment, he was saying that Carbon Metallic is the best color EVER! and it was only available in '07.

Honestly, I don't see the value that I paid for. I pay nothing to Google and the Maps on my phone are fantastic. Maybe Microsoft/Ford should start serving ads when you shut of the vehicle. That way they'll have revenue and not have to resort to this NavTeq crap. (I kid, I kid)

Dealer is going to try to make money on you. Whether from the car or from the trade in. If you don't like the trade-in ... go elsewhere to sell it, and then come back and give them the loot for your new Edge. Try a CarMax if you want to see a comparable rate for selling to a "dealer". They'll give you a quote that's good for 7 days. Otherwise, sell it yourself.

That sure works if I remembered every track name, or number or artist etc. I have plenty of music where the artists are collaborating and saying " Play Jay-Z" doesn't always bring ALL of Jay-Z's songs up. I end up using my phone quite a bit as I can scroll to my heart's content with a flick of a finger.

I hope they are going to fix it. I've been riding around trying to get used to it, but I can't. Out my window, everything looks peed on.

Don't get me started on the Nav car fault... that's my most common issue with the system. I'm going back down to Orange to let them work on it one more time. Hopefully they can convince me to keep my lease with a working MFT. I'm sooo itchy to see what 3.x will bring.

Its the exact same shape, the only difference is the wiring pigtails.

Welcome. I took a sailing course in college and worked for a boating store. I've always been into fishing, but sailing is an expensive sport.

I don't see how they will pull you over in an Edge since the base Halogen lights are also constructed with Low/High projectors. I think that legislation would be more apt to apprehending drivers that put HID kits into reflector based housings.

The Bi Halogen projector on the Sport does a decent job with HID kits. +1 for the Sport Also forgot the Special leather seats are a nice plus and the lack of the fake wood is nice too. +1 for the Sport And apparently you can get the Driver Package with the Sport. Guess I was wrong. Don't forget to take a look at the Tow Package on the Limited as pointed out by Wilson.

New design. They must be saving some money with the integrated unit. I think that the fabrication of that weld had to cost something versus a single unit that has the split constructed into the thing. There could be other things involved too since extra external welds means chances for leaks etc.

Not at all. To me, the Edge brakes have great grab and feel. There's a tiny spot where the car knows it's braking before the friction actually occurs, but I have to try in order to find it. I think it was designed like this to allow you to do some light engine braking on grades. But in general, I don't ever feel that the car keeps rolling if I command a stop. Were you maybe trying to do a finesse stop? Or maybe something was on the rotors such as oil? If not, I would have the dealer look at the brakes to see if they might have air in the lines.

Congrats! Sail on!

I just noticed you have 2 identical threads. Akirby will probably delete the other one. Also just noticed you drive a Volvo. I had (still have actually) a 94 850 T5 and used to frequent Volvospeed. What Volvo you got?

haha... you'll find all kinds of things to coat with this crap. I used UPGP on my shower mirror and it's awesome. The thing still fogs, but one pass with the water nozzle and everything sheets off. No more missed spots while shaving

That word would describe this new tint I got on the front windows this weekend. I ask the guy to match it and trusted him. After driving around for a day, everything out my window looks muddy.

Average MPH is average speed. If you are averaging city speeds, expect city MPG. If you hit a trip on which you average 50MPH, expect Highway MPG. 33MPH = city driving or slightly better. It's definitely not real highway speed. Either you don't spend as much time on the Highway as you believe or you idle your car for long periods bringing your averages down. I get a combined 20.2 right now, but I drive in LA Rush Hour and average about 30-35MPH

Are you kidding? On a "roll-on" type dyno it sure makes a difference. Again, I will say... Rotational Interia. Explain that one. Strap a 25 lb weight to each wheel the next time you dyno it if you think it won't make difference.

IMO, ugly. To me, it looks like a carbon car that was left in the dust for a couple days. I wish they would have kept the Carbon Metallic from earlier years.

Good questions. I stuck with the Limited for several reasons. (These were all personal reasons) 1) MPG. 1 mile might not be much to some people, but for some reason it made a difference in my head. And if you get AWD, you're already coughing up 1 MPG. 2) Performance. Yes, the Sport is slower due to the Behemoth 22s. Don't get me wrong, they look amazing and if I could afford a second set of show-off rims, I would opt for some. My analogy is a Maria Sharipova vs a Pam Anderson. You'll get LOTS of looks either way, but Pam will get more double takes at the beach. But take them both to the an athletic outing and you'll see where the Big Guns can get in the way. 3) Ride. The ride of 22's will be a "bit" less comfortable, even with the highly tuned suspension bits. 4) I wanted the Driver's Entry Package. What I wanted and had to do without: 1) 3.7 L Mustang engine (It just has a nice ring to it; Saying you got a Mustang V6 with 300 ponies has got to be a smile maker) 2) Sport body pieces ( The matched body pieces look amazing [ I think an aftermarket solution will be available eventually]) 3) 22" wheels look amazing. 4) Blacked out grille I loved the idea of the blacked out grille, but wanted to be a bit different, so I wrapped it in black vinyl (DIY, never wrapped anything previously) As far as Model Year goes, you're in the position to get the better vehicle, so I would suggest waiting. There's some changes in the 2012 that I would like on my car including the extra baffling in the D pillars for extra quieting and the turn signal mirrors like the Explorer. In the end, it's up to what you value between all these differences. Good luck with your choice and welcome!

I'm not surprised at all. Those 22" wheels not only weigh about 25-30 lbs heavier each, but the moment of inertia has changed as well. Think about strapping a 25 lb. dumbbell to a 18" chrome clad and what kind of effect that would have. NOW think about that 25lb. weight spread out over the whole rim versus stuck on just the hub. (eg 5 x 5lb weights all around the barrel)... The rotational inertia that the engine needs to overcome before your wheels start to move is MASSIVE. It explains why the Sport is NOT the quickest Edge from factory. EDIT: BTW thanks for posting this. Very interesting to know that 40 ponies can be squeezed out of the 3.7L ... I wonder what kind of gains can be made with the 3.5L