ike Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 The following outlines everything necessary to install the AVIC-D3 w/backup cameras into the Ford Edge with the Audiophile subwoofer. This does not address maintaining steering wheel controls, or Ipod integration YET. I must give credit to “Misfit” on the avic411.com forum for helping me to find specific wires on the edge. I believe he’s an installer and has an Edge of his own. WHAT YOU’LL NEED: Pioneer’s AVIC-D3 Navigation unit. You can find them fairly cheaply online. But I chose to by locally in case I ever have a problem with it. Best Buy offered a 4-year warranty for $89. I normally don’t purchase the extended warranties but this seemed like a reasonable deal to protect a sophisticated and relatively expensive unit. Circuit City put the thing on sale for $799 for a few days and I was able to get Best Buy to price match it !! A backup camera: I used Kenwood’s CCD-2000. I got it locally at Meyer Emco but you can get it online from a number of places including Crutchfield: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-65Kr0Od6zfo/c...mp;I=113CCD2000 I’m really happy with the camera. It’s small and has a nice picture in the daytime as well as at night. A dash trim Kit: I used Scosche’s FD1432B http://www.scosche.com/press_room.aspx?id=128&year=2007 A wiring harness: I used Scosche’s FDK11B http://www.scosche.com/v2/scosche_caraudio...p;ItemID=FDK11B You can also use metra’s 70-5521 A Ford antenna adapter: I couldn’t find this locally so I ordered from BrentwoodCarAudio.com, who’s also posted some pics of an install on this forum. Other stuff: I used crimp-style butt connectors, zip ties and wire taps from Posi-Tap. You can find these wire taps at Crutchfield: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fTDSZud4j2C/c....asp?i=669PP605 INSTALLATION: Removing the Dash: The dash of the Edge removes nicely without any screws. It’s simply a pressure fit. The first time I did it, I used a thin putty knife wrapped with electrical tape to keep from scratching anything. But later on, I got good at removing the dash with just my hands in this position: Once the dash trim is pulled off, there are a few harnesses for the HVAC keeping it attached. I just left these in-tact and rested the dash as shown here. The wires are long enough: Use some cloth or paper at the resting point to keep from scratching anything. Unbolt the 4 screws and the factory radio comes out easily. Remove the 3 wiring harnesses from the radio and pull out the antenna wire. Mounting the Nav. Antenna: I mounted mine in the little cove that’s on top of the dash. It fits there perfectly and always has good satellite reception. I just drilled a small hole for the wire. The antenna is off to one side to avoid the "nubs" that protrude down from the dash for that center shelf. Make sure to use the metal backing plate that comes with the nav antenna. Connecting the Edge’s factory AUX input Jack: There’s 3 connectors that plugged into the back of your factory radio. But the Scosche and other factory harness kits only have 2 connectors. The unused connector that went to your factory radio is the connector that has the 3 wires that go to the Edge’s factory AUX input located in the arm rest console. Using tap-in connectors, tap the 3 wires for Left, Right and Common. I didn’t note down the colors of the wires but you can figure them out easily by doing a continuity test between the tapped wire and one of the 3 segments of the audio cable. If you get stuck here, I’ll pull my dash back off and get you the wire colors. I used the AV1 input wires of the D3 here. Connecting the Subwoofer: The Audiophile harnesses come with a separate harness connector for the subwoofer. This connector has 6 wires coming from it (4 for stereo RCA connectors and 2 for remote amp turn on) but the Edge uses only 3 of them (2 for Mono RCA to the Sub and 1 for the amp’s remote turn on). Use the wires that match up with the factory’s harness. I connected the Left Subwoofer output of the D3 to the RCA connector on the harness. I’m told this is a full mono signal but I’m not 100% convinced yet. Because when I move the balance all the way to the right, I have no bass. So, it’s possible that the output of the D3’s Subwoofer output is Stereo, meaning I’m losing half of the signal. I may decide to use a Y-adapter to combine the Left and Right Sub output of the D3 but I’m trying to find out if this is Ok to do. If you connect the D3's amp turn on wire directly to the harness, you will notice a rather severe “THUMP” every time you turn on the radio. This is because the factory Edge amp expects a turn on voltage of 5 volts but the AVIC D3 puts out 12volts. This isn’t healthy for the Sub and probably not for the amp either. Follow these instructions for building a 5v dc voltage regulator. http://www.sminntech.com/techai.html http://www.sminntech.com/aiinstall.html A picture of mine completed is here. I shielded it using shrink tubing from Radio Shack. All of the parts can be found at Radio Shack for just a few dollars: AVIC-D3 BYPASS Don’t want the navigation unit to prevent you from entering destinations while you’re moving? Simple !! Follow these instructions to ‘Bypass” this. http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4670 VSS: VSS = Vehicle Speed Sensor. You don’t NEED to connect this. But if you do, the Navigation is supposed to be more accurate. In the Edge, you can find this wire coming from the PCM (Powertrain Control Module), which is under the hood on the passenger side of the engine. It is the purple/orange wire. Reverse: You should connect the D3’s reverse wire even if you aren’t using a backup camera. This again is supposed to help accuracy by giving additional information to the Navigation. A reverse wire can be found in the Edge at the driver’s kick panel, in the large bundle of wires heading towards the rear of the car. Good eyes, good lighting and some patience is necessary here. The wire is Light green/brown and there are plenty of green wires in that bundle. I used a multimeter with a sharp probe to make sure I had the correct one before I tapped it. Illumination: In order for the D3 to switch between Daytime and Night time modes, you must connect the illumination wire from the D3 to a wire in the Edge that goes to +12v when the lights are turned on. There is no illumination wire in the radio harness. So, I used the parking lights wire, which is a purple/white wire in the Smart Junction Box above the driver’s kick panel. NOTE: If you often turn on your headlights in the daytime but want your Nav to stay in Daytime mode, then you don’t want to connect this wire in this manner. You’ll want to wire up your own switch so that you can override the D3 from switching to Night mode. I’ve left mine connected so that when the headlights are turned on, it automatically goes to Night mode. I’m not sure if I fully like this or not yet. Unfortunately, the D3 does not give the user the ability to manually go to day mode. There actually is an on-screen “button” that allows you to switch between day and night but it does not work as expected. It only changes brightness somewhat, it does not change the background map color between grey and black. The backup cam: Installing the backup cam wasn’t difficult but it requires a good bit of time. I mounted the Kenwood camera up under the area where the rear hatch release button is right next to it. That panel where the rear hatch button is located is removable and makes installation much easier. To remove this panel, you have to open the hatch and pull off the interior trim. The trim will pull off by hand. It’s held on with several cheap plastic push-on connectors. Just keep yanking gently all around the piece and it comes off. Then you’ll see the nuts that hold the panel. Remove the nuts and compress the two plastic “pins” at either end of the panel and it comes out easily. From there, it’s pretty straightforward to mount the camera and route the wire through the existing harness. It did take me some time to fish the wire through the factory rubber “tube” connecting the hatch to the car. But it’s doable. I’ll add some additional Finished pics later… Good luck with your installs and let me know if you have any questions. Ike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorgee Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 What a great writeup. Wish it was around b4 i installed mine. Still got to install my 4 ga power ans speakerwire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Thanks. I wish I had my instructions too before I did the install ! It took quite a while to figure that all out. Seems we're the only two here who's self-installing an aftermarket nav. As popular as the Edge is, I'm surprised there isn't more traffic on this board. Edited July 4, 2007 by ike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daves43 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 The following outlines everything necessary to install the AVIC-D3 w/backup cameras into the Ford Edge with the Audiophile subwoofer. This does not address maintaining steering wheel controls, or Ipod integration YET. I must give credit to “Misfit” on the avic411.com forum for helping me to find specific wires on the edge. I believe he’s an installer and has an Edge of his own. WHAT YOU’LL NEED: Pioneer’s AVIC-D3 Navigation unit. You can find them fairly cheaply online. But I chose to by locally in case I ever have a problem with it. Best Buy offered a 4-year warranty for $89. I normally don’t purchase the extended warranties but this seemed like a reasonable deal to protect a sophisticated and relatively expensive unit. Circuit City put the thing on sale for $799 for a few days and I was able to get Best Buy to price match it !! A backup camera: I used Kenwood’s CCD-2000. I got it locally at Meyer Emco but you can get it online from a number of places including Crutchfield: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-65Kr0Od6zfo/c...mp;I=113CCD2000 I’m really happy with the camera. It’s small and has a nice picture in the daytime as well as at night. A dash trim Kit: I used Scosche’s FD1432B http://www.scosche.com/press_room.aspx?id=128&year=2007 A wiring harness: I used Scosche’s FDK11B http://www.scosche.com/v2/scosche_caraudio...p;ItemID=FDK11B You can also use metra’s 70-5521 A Ford antenna adapter: I couldn’t find this locally so I ordered from BrentwoodCarAudio.com, who’s also posted some pics of an install on this forum. Other stuff: I used crimp-style butt connectors, zip ties and wire taps from Posi-Tap. You can find these wire taps at Crutchfield: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fTDSZud4j2C/c....asp?i=669PP605 INSTALLATION: Removing the Dash: The dash of the Edge removes nicely without any screws. It’s simply a pressure fit. The first time I did it, I used a thin putty knife wrapped with electrical tape to keep from scratching anything. But later on, I got good at removing the dash with just my hands in this position: Once the dash trim is pulled off, there are a few harnesses for the HVAC keeping it attached. I just left these in-tact and rested the dash as shown here. The wires are long enough: Use some cloth or paper at the resting point to keep from scratching anything. Unbolt the 4 screws and the factory radio comes out easily. Remove the 3 wiring harnesses from the radio and pull out the antenna wire. Mounting the Nav. Antenna: I mounted mine in the little cove that’s on top of the dash. It fits there perfectly and always has good satellite reception. I just drilled a small hole for the wire. The antenna is off to one side to avoid the "nubs" that protrude down from the dash for that center shelf. Make sure to use the metal backing plate that comes with the nav antenna. Connecting the Edge’s factory AUX input Jack: There’s 3 connectors that plugged into the back of your factory radio. But the Scosche and other factory harness kits only have 2 connectors. The unused connector that went to your factory radio is the connector that has the 3 wires that go to the Edge’s factory AUX input located in the arm rest console. Using tap-in connectors, tap the 3 wires for Left, Right and Common. I didn’t note down the colors of the wires but you can figure them out easily by doing a continuity test between the tapped wire and one of the 3 segments of the audio cable. If you get stuck here, I’ll pull my dash back off and get you the wire colors. I used the AV1 input wires of the D3 here. Connecting the Subwoofer: The Audiophile harnesses come with a separate harness connector for the subwoofer. This connector has 6 wires coming from it (4 for stereo RCA connectors and 2 for remote amp turn on) but the Edge uses only 3 of them (2 for Mono RCA to the Sub and 1 for the amp’s remote turn on). Use the wires that match up with the factory’s harness. I connected the Left Subwoofer output of the D3 to the RCA connector on the harness. I’m told this is a full mono signal but I’m not 100% convinced yet. Because when I move the balance all the way to the right, I have no bass. So, it’s possible that the output of the D3’s Subwoofer output is Stereo, meaning I’m losing half of the signal. I may decide to use a Y-adapter to combine the Left and Right Sub output of the D3 but I’m trying to find out if this is Ok to do. If you connect the D3's amp turn on wire directly to the harness, you will notice a rather severe “THUMP” every time you turn on the radio. This is because the factory Edge amp expects a turn on voltage of 5 volts but the AVIC D3 puts out 12volts. This isn’t healthy for the Sub and probably not for the amp either. Follow these instructions for building a 5v dc voltage regulator. http://www.sminntech.com/techai.html http://www.sminntech.com/aiinstall.html A picture of mine completed is here. I shielded it using shrink tubing from Radio Shack. All of the parts can be found at Radio Shack for just a few dollars: AVIC-D3 BYPASS Don’t want the navigation unit to prevent you from entering destinations while you’re moving? Simple !! Follow these instructions to ‘Bypass” this. http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4670 VSS: VSS = Vehicle Speed Sensor. You don’t NEED to connect this. But if you do, the Navigation is supposed to be more accurate. In the Edge, you can find this wire coming from the PCM (Powertrain Control Module), which is under the hood on the passenger side of the engine. It is the purple/orange wire. Reverse: You should connect the D3’s reverse wire even if you aren’t using a backup camera. This again is supposed to help accuracy by giving additional information to the Navigation. A reverse wire can be found in the Edge at the driver’s kick panel, in the large bundle of wires heading towards the rear of the car. Good eyes, good lighting and some patience is necessary here. The wire is Light green/brown and there are plenty of green wires in that bundle. I used a multimeter with a sharp probe to make sure I had the correct one before I tapped it. Illumination: In order for the D3 to switch between Daytime and Night time modes, you must connect the illumination wire from the D3 to a wire in the Edge that goes to +12v when the lights are turned on. There is no illumination wire in the radio harness. So, I used the parking lights wire, which is a purple/white wire in the Smart Junction Box above the driver’s kick panel. NOTE: If you often turn on your headlights in the daytime but want your Nav to stay in Daytime mode, then you don’t want to connect this wire in this manner. You’ll want to wire up your own switch so that you can override the D3 from switching to Night mode. I’ve left mine connected so that when the headlights are turned on, it automatically goes to Night mode. I’m not sure if I fully like this or not yet. Unfortunately, the D3 does not give the user the ability to manually go to day mode. There actually is an on-screen “button” that allows you to switch between day and night but it does not work as expected. It only changes brightness somewhat, it does not change the background map color between grey and black. The backup cam: Installing the backup cam wasn’t difficult but it requires a good bit of time. I mounted the Kenwood camera up under the area where the rear hatch release button is right next to it. That panel where the rear hatch button is located is removable and makes installation much easier. To remove this panel, you have to open the hatch and pull off the interior trim. The trim will pull off by hand. It’s held on with several cheap plastic push-on connectors. Just keep yanking gently all around the piece and it comes off. Then you’ll see the nuts that hold the panel. Remove the nuts and compress the two plastic “pins” at either end of the panel and it comes out easily. From there, it’s pretty straightforward to mount the camera and route the wire through the existing harness. It did take me some time to fish the wire through the factory rubber “tube” connecting the hatch to the car. But it’s doable. I’ll add some additional Finished pics later… Good luck with your installs and let me know if you have any questions. Ike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daves43 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Could you post some photos of what it looks like after the install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Could you post some photos of what it looks like after the install. Will do - once I get back from vacation next week. There's another thread in this forum from Brentwood car audio that shows some pics of the dash after the install of the AVIC D3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorgee Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 You think Ill have any problems with running my speaker cable next to my 4 ga power wire. I have never heard of any probs. I have pics if you want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted July 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 You think Ill have any problems with running my speaker cable next to my 4 ga power wire. I have never heard of any probs. I have pics if you want them. I've always tried to keep audio wires away from power wires when possible (especially line level RCA wires) to avoid noise. Speaker wires will probably be OK. You can always just give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securinu Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Speaker wires can run with power wires. Its RCA's that you want to keep away from power wires. Also if you use good quality RCA's that are double or triple sheilded that will greatly reduce the risk of noise. I use Stinger Helix in all my installs a set of 4 by 17' run about $100 they are triple sheilded and are directional. There is a wick line on the deck side to pull in the noise and dump it on the deck end so it wont get amplified. The last resort to get rid of noise is Ground Loop Isolators as this will eliminate the noise but also rob rca level as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorgee Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 That sounds good. I have my RCAs run on the right side of the car and I forgot to put the speaker wire in. Also, its a tight fit with 3 set of RCA cables cramed into a little space. Thanks for you help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj42042 Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Ike, when you made your 12v to 5v regulator, did you use capacitors? I'm fairly familiar with reading wiring schematics as shown on the SminnTech website. Although I'm a little confused. To me it looks like he's grounding the capacitors on both the input and output of the 7805. Is this correct? I'm going to be installing my Avic-D3 this weekend and have all the parts needed, I'm just unsure about the caps on the voltage regulator. Thanks much, JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted July 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Ike, when you made your 12v to 5v regulator, did you use capacitors? I'm fairly familiar with reading wiring schematics as shown on the SminnTech website. Although I'm a little confused. To me it looks like he's grounding the capacitors on both the input and output of the 7805. Is this correct? I'm going to be installing my Avic-D3 this weekend and have all the parts needed, I'm just unsure about the caps on the voltage regulator. Thanks much, JJ Yes, I did use capacitors in my voltage regulator. And you are correct - both capacitors (input and output) share a common ground with the ground connector of the 7805 voltage regulator. When you are done, you will have 3 leads. 1. The +12v wire from the AVIC D3's Amp turn on goes into the Voltage regulator's input 2. The common ground of the voltage regulator is connected to the same ground as your AVIC D3 3. And the output of the voltage regulator goes to the Audiophile wiring harness so that +5v goes to the factory Edge Sub Amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securinu Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 You can also try a 5.6k resistor inline with the turn on lead. We do this on all the fords and never get that thump fromn the turn on. We have the resistors in a ATC fuse format s it makes for a real easy inline run with either 2 female spade connectors or 2 3m T-Taps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj42042 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks for the info. My next question has to deal with the PCM to connect the VSS. Where under the hood is the PCM. If you have a pic that would be great. Other than that my install went very well. I got the Bluetooth adapter, and sirius both fired up, but am having a little trouble with the PAC audio steering wheel control module. JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securinu Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks for the info. My next question has to deal with the PCM to connect the VSS. Where under the hood is the PCM. If you have a pic that would be great. Other than that my install went very well. I got the Bluetooth adapter, and sirius both fired up, but am having a little trouble with the PAC audio steering wheel control module. JJ As far as the PCM it is a pain to get the wire inside i have found the rear right wheel speed sensor wire inside and used that . It is right in front of the spare tire on the right side it is a brown wire . much easier to do . As far as the sterring wheel interface I will write up a detaled step by step later @ home and include a pic it fairly simple just a little time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Where are you mounting the reverse camera? Like to see a picture of it mounted if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichi Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 First off, Great Write-up! We picked up a new edge and are also installing the D3. I do have a couple questions however: For the VSS, I noticed that the factory radio has speed sensitive volume. Usually this means the VSS can be found at the radio harness. Did you look into this or know which wire it may be? This'll be easier than going through the firewall. I looked in the engine compartment and it looks really crambed. How were you able to go through the firewall to get to the PCM? Did you use an existing grommet? I also have a small sub amp I'd like to install. Problem is that there isn't much room under the front seats, especially with the vents. Any suggestions for amp placement? Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichi Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I also just completed my nav install. I installed the D3, XM, bluetooth, sub amp & iPod adapter. I'd also like to mention a 2nd place to get the illumination wire. It's in the same bundle of cables as the reverse wire, same color (purple/white stripe). This one's much easier to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securinu Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Ichi your vss can be found right in that same bundle of wires. Brown / green twisted with blue / orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorgee Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Has anybody done this yet? Its a great alternative to the stock nav system. Would be nice if it had a sync like product. I cant seem to get my AM to work. Does anyone have the same problem with the AVICD3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrannan19 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Has anybody done this yet? Its a great alternative to the stock nav system. Would be nice if it had a sync like product. I cant seem to get my AM to work. Does anyone have the same problem with the AVICD3 I put a Z2 in my wifes edge..I WISH my AM didn't work..I hate having it as an input.. and a reversing camera in the tag surround also added a sirius tuner for the pioneer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorgee Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Sweet setup man. I guess Ill forget about the AM radio. I got the satellite. I guess my football teams suck this year so there is no need to listen to local sports radio. I like the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyhound Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I am considering an Edge now but have a AVIC-Z1 in my current 06 Mustang. Is the D3 double dinn? I didn't think the Edge could handle that. If so I would totally move it to the Edge. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplorgee Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 It is a double DIN receiver. Its a nice receiver but I have problems when its over 140 degrees in my car. What doesnt though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006GT Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 That sounds good. I have my RCAs run on the right side of the car and I forgot to put the speaker wire in. Also, its a tight fit with 3 set of RCA cables cramed into a little space. Thanks for you help guys. Great write up! I just did my wifes this weekend. Everything went well with the exception of the Steering wheel adaptor. Won't work. I have a support question off to PAC for that ... I didn't not hook up the VSS wire yet... Which one is reccomended??? 1) By the PCM? If so, which harness is it in? 2) Driver side/kick panel bundle along with the ilumination and reverse wires??? Thanks for your help guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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